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Old 03-25-2019, 04:37 PM   #1901
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the 4th and 15 idea is gimmicky as hell, maybe the NBA should have a line 40 feet out worth 10 points that comes into play if team trails by 15 or more with less than 5 minutes to go
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Old 03-25-2019, 04:49 PM   #1902
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is that instead of onside kicks? seems fine, those are gimmicky themselves
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Old 03-25-2019, 05:13 PM   #1903
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4th and 15 seems massively easier to convert than an expected onside kick under the current rules.

Of course I'd be thrilled with giving Mahomes the ball in that spot.
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Old 03-25-2019, 05:24 PM   #1904
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people are speculating Pats-Cowboys
I'd rank the SNF opening possibilities this way:

1. Kansas City
2. Dallas
3. Cleveland
4. Pittsburgh
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Old 03-25-2019, 05:57 PM   #1905
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If teams are smart, we'll see a lot more 4th and 15 attempts in 2019 than onside kicks in 2018.
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Old 03-25-2019, 05:57 PM   #1906
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I can't see any old person picking Cleveland. Ever. Giants have to be up there too, yes from a football standpoint that's awful but these are old people and it's still ELI MANNING and the giants pats history and all that.
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:00 PM   #1907
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I guess Gronk being the best TE of all time depends on criteria, he doesn't have longevity and was hurt a lot.
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Old 03-25-2019, 06:06 PM   #1908
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4th and 15 seems massively easier to convert than an expected onside kick under the current rules.

Of course I'd be thrilled with giving Mahomes the ball in that spot.
8% to convert onsides kick this year. It was drastically lower than years past because of the new rules about overloading one side.

It's around ~20% for a 4th and 15

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I guess Gronk being the best TE of all time depends on criteria, he doesn't have longevity and was hurt a lot.
I can't think of many other TEs who were elite blockers and elite receivers. They're usually one or the other.
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Old 03-25-2019, 07:18 PM   #1909
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Gronk TD rate is pretty elite as well........
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Old 03-25-2019, 09:28 PM   #1910
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Mark Geragos, the attorney who represented Kaepernick in the NFL case, was the co-conspirator in Michael Avenatti's attempted extortion of Nike. The same Nike that showed support for Kaep with the ad campaign.


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Old 03-25-2019, 10:49 PM   #1911
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wait, is this 4th and 15 going to happen now? So no onside kicks? Or is there a choice a coach make between the two?
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Old 03-25-2019, 10:54 PM   #1912
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I'd rank the SNF opening possibilities this way:

1. Kansas City
2. Dallas
3. Cleveland
4. Pittsburgh
KC seems like way too big of a game, probably the Nov week 8-10ish game now.

I'd go Cle-Dal-Pitt-KC
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Old 03-25-2019, 10:54 PM   #1913
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8% to convert onsides kick this year. It was drastically lower than years past because of the new rules about overloading one side.



It's around ~20% for a 4th and 15.

What was the percentage in end game situations? 0%? I watched a lot of football and canít remember a single successful onside when it wasnít a surprise. I assume there was at least one but dunno.

In favor of anything that gives the team trying to mount a comeback a reasonable chance to recover
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Old 03-25-2019, 10:55 PM   #1914
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So who is goign to be 2nd-3rd-4th on the Pats in receptions this year? Gronk, Hogan, Gordon all gone.

I know they always put it together but they basically have a 33 y/o Edelman and nothing else right now.
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Old 03-25-2019, 10:56 PM   #1915
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Where did Hogan go?
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Old 03-25-2019, 11:02 PM   #1916
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I guess he could return but they seem done with him.
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Old 03-25-2019, 11:03 PM   #1917
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KC seems like way too big of a game, probably the Nov week 8-10ish game now.

I'd go Cle-Dal-Pitt-KC
Same.
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Old 03-26-2019, 12:51 AM   #1918
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Even with the Cleveland hype if there's an opportunity to put Dallas in primetime they'll do it
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Old 03-26-2019, 01:27 AM   #1919
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Even with the Cleveland hype if there's an opportunity to put Dallas in primetime they'll do it
well it's simple NFC E gets the highest ratings, so even the **** Giants are going to get 4 of them, especially that stupid primetime vs dal game somewhere.

NE/DAL and NE/KC are basically locks to be 2 SNF games. eagles cowboys another. Then it gets kinda murky, bears packers already taken. Dal @ Chi/NO as well. There's four locks (though one could be a TNF/turkey game).

Would they have the balls to do Ravens Browns? instead of whatever lame ravens/steelers is gonna be
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Old 03-26-2019, 01:30 AM   #1920
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So who is goign to be 2nd-3rd-4th on the Pats in receptions this year? Gronk, Hogan, Gordon all gone.

I know they always put it together but they basically have a 33 y/o Edelman and nothing else right now.
James White
Rex Burkhead
Nick Vannett
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Old 03-26-2019, 02:15 AM   #1921
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And they will all somehow be wide open on crossing patterns over the middle on every play and turn a five yard pass into fifteen yards.
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Old 03-26-2019, 03:39 AM   #1922
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Even with the Cleveland hype if there's an opportunity to put Dallas in primetime they'll do it
NBC will have 3 games of Dallas through the year anyway, so might as well save them for weeks 3-8 and use their opener on an otherwise lesser opening game.

Do Fox and CBS have the rights to any specific cross conference games? Some of the biggest cross conference games haven't been on NBC in recent years (namely Dallas hosting big name AFC team which would usually be a CBS game)
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Old 03-26-2019, 12:56 PM   #1923
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:20 PM   #1924
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Report out there Dolphins tried to trade for Stafford last offseason and would've been willing to give up the 11th pick.

Lions didn't even get to asking what the offer was.
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Old 03-26-2019, 07:30 PM   #1925
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Stafford had recently signed and had a 50M signing bonus DET would be responsible for. How would they make that work?
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