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Old 03-14-2019, 01:05 PM   #1551
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Peppers would've only gotten roughly a 5th in a trade so getting OBJ instead of Brown only cost an extra first and OBJ is just 26 AND they don't have to give him a new deal (though odell is trying) AND the giants paid over 20M for that extension AND the giants taking on the big cap hit AND with both vernon/OBJ if the Giants didn't extend either they'd have no cap hit right now AND OBJ isn't the diva Brown is. Teammates like him.

Basically the Giants are just hoping he's injury prone like the last two seasons and Gettleman is a god damn moron.
Lol no way. Peppers is a good young safety making little. Heís worth WAY more than a 5th.
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:42 PM   #1552
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Bell’s deal is 25M fully guaranteed. Dude got punked.
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:54 PM   #1553
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Not if he pulls a Haynesworth and just jogs up to the line and falls down every time. With his running style you'd hardly be able to tell anyway. You'd just think his O-line sucks.
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Old 03-14-2019, 01:54 PM   #1554
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Bell’s deal is 25M fully guaranteed. Dude got punked.
so it's essentially a two year 26 million dollar deal, that the jets could cut while only eating the signing bonus, looks like they would only eat 4 mil if they cut him after 2.

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eta- meanwhile if he survived the same two years in pitt he would have made 33 million. obviously fully guaranteed 25 is better than two year rolling 33 with a fully guaranteed somewhere around 17.
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:24 PM   #1555
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:44 PM   #1556
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I don't think Bell really "blew" his chances - just the RB position is on the decline in value. He might be the last RB ever to make over $12 million a year in a long term contract. Maybe even over $10 million.
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Old 03-14-2019, 02:53 PM   #1557
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The Bell discussion is very results oriented. If Conner doesn't pan out for example the Steelers would have caved and paid Bell big money.
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:01 PM   #1558
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The Bell discussion is very results oriented. If Conner doesn't pan out for example the Steelers would have caved and paid Bell big money.
Are we really shocked Conner panned out? Denagelo played very well despite being mediocre as hell at the end in Carolina. The system for the Steelers is gold and most rbs are going to look better than they would, elsewhere.
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:16 PM   #1559
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Not shocked. Bell gambled, he lost. It's wrong to look at his current contract as if that was the only possible result imo. Maybe it was a bad gamble but that is not obvious.
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:24 PM   #1560
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The Bell discussion is very results oriented. If Conner doesn't pan out for example the Steelers would have caved and paid Bell big money.
but there was ample evidence the system is everything. see deangelo. then a rookie tight end was fine as the lead ball carrier. it would have been a huge shock for conner to look richardsonesque
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:35 PM   #1561
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A Barnwell approved signing:

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Daryl Williams, OT, Carolina Panthers
The deal: One year, up to $6 million
Grade: A
DT Malcom Brown to Saints 3/$15m
CB Jason Verrett to 49ers 1/$3.6m
S Ha Ha to Bears for 1 year
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:40 PM   #1562
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Which FA backs have gotten truly paid by another team??

Murray is one I can think of.
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:45 PM   #1563
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Murray for 5 years 42.

He only made 26 in his career.

Lamar Miller for 4 years 26.

Leveon just got 4 years 53.

McKinnon got 4 years 30, but can be cut before April 1st for free essentially.

Market for free agent rbs kind of sucks. Only two chances to make big time money as rbs, being drafted top 5 or getting paid after year first deal expires.
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:48 PM   #1564
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For some reason this Michael Bennett quote amuses me:

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“I used to hate the Patriots,” the 33-year-old said when asked about his initial reaction to the move. “I hated because they’d win so much. I hated because Tom Brady’s hair was long. Hated that Belichick would wear sweaters. But now that I’m here, I love it. I love Tom Brady’s hair, I love being a Patriot.”
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Old 03-14-2019, 03:59 PM   #1565
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A Barnwell approved signing:
without the david gettleman special matt kalil contract things on the oline arent that bad. hope he gets cut, just have to eat the dead money because he should not see the field
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:05 PM   #1566
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I don't think Bell really "blew" his chances - just the RB position is on the decline in value. He might be the last RB ever to make over $12 million a year in a long term contract. Maybe even over $10 million.
Wait until you see what Jerrys gonna give Zeke. Connor playing well definitely hurt Bell. Also not clear if Bell always intended on skipping the whole season or if plans changed mid season.
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:46 PM   #1567
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I don't think Bell really "blew" his chances - just the RB position is on the decline in value. He might be the last RB ever to make over $12 million a year in a long term contract. Maybe even over $10 million.


Lol, Zeke will become highest paid RB in the next few months
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Old 03-14-2019, 04:48 PM   #1568
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**** dave gettleman
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:05 PM   #1569
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Tate to the Giants for 4/37.5. Just a tour de force of total AIDS by the Giants.
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:05 PM   #1570
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hahahahahahaha

dave gettleman the all time woat
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:08 PM   #1571
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Golden Tate to Giants 4/37.5

Sad now for the Colts
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:11 PM   #1572
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I donít mind the Tate signing for a good team. Heís still very good and if the guarantees donít go past two years, itís decent value.

Heíd be a great WR for a young QB to throw to as well

Obviously makes no sense if youíre tanking but the Giants actions have been totally incoherent so who the **** knows?
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:24 PM   #1573
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Gettleman in his mind, isn't tanking. The guy dumped Steve Smith and Josh Norman for no god damn reason other than they didn't shut up 24/7/365.

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Old 03-14-2019, 05:40 PM   #1574
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When Gettleman was hired by the Giants and I read posters' warnings about how awful he was, I just knew they were kidding.

They weren't. What a reputation to have to live up to, but "Congratulations, Gett! You surpassed expectations."
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Old 03-14-2019, 05:45 PM   #1575
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