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03-17-2019 , 01:22 PM
he's a dog to ever throw 50 tds again but it's not gonna be because of no Hill

everyone is replaceable except the qb. he gets the big $ no matter what here.
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03-17-2019 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mutigers
Meaning what? Merely 4500 yards and 40 tds? Everyone expects the TD rate to for sure regress and it surely will but I’m just saying what are people’s actual expectations...because 4300 yards and like 35 tds is still gonna get paid. I think the defense is still gonna be awful and he’s gonna have to throw a ton. Also it will be his 2nd actual year starting and I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect him to improve as a player even if the numbers aren’t the same
Maybe. OTOH, there are a herd of defensive coordinators who have spent the last several months putting him under their microscopes. Kap, RG3, etc. etc. - broke out big and then regressed, (injuries, too) - I think he's still going to be great, but he's not sneaking up on anyone this year. Of course, Reid is going to adjust to their adjustments, probably pretty well (as long as he doesn't have to figure out time outs and stuff like that, he's great) - so it's going to be interesting.

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03-17-2019 , 03:59 PM
Fitzmagic to the Fins on 2 year deal. Looks like $11m over 2 as salary with incentives taking it to close to $20.

May not be ideal for tanking as he’s sure to win them a couple of games if he runs hot
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03-17-2019 , 04:18 PM
The good news is Ryan Fitzpatrick has beaten Tom Brady twice, including once on the road down 21-0.

He's older than Jay Cutler. They could've just gone with Blake Bortles with the guy who puts up some random great game and is ass most of the rest of the time. At least he's only 26, maybe something clicks. Yes, they'll draft some rook but I don't know if you want a guy who sometimes looks like you should actually do what he does but often that's actually bad to teach him.
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03-17-2019 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
The good news is Ryan Fitzpatrick has beaten Tom Brady twice, including once on the road down 21-0.
This game was in Buffalo. One of the two pats games I’ve ever been to. That was a long walk back to the hotel room.
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03-17-2019 , 05:03 PM
Hot take

If Kyler Murray goes to Arizona I see him possibly breaking Baker Mayfield's rookie TD passes record. His tape is pretty sick and his arm talent is underrated. Arizona's defense should be bad as well. Forcing him to throw more.
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03-17-2019 , 05:19 PM
Gettleman claiming that Haskins doesn't fit with the Giants because he isn't "elusive enough".

We all know what that's code for though: he doesn't run fast enough. I mean how often do you hear that criticism about white QBs? Gettleman is such a racist POS.

They're either gonna draft Drew Lock or inexplicably stick with Eli for another year.
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03-17-2019 , 05:28 PM
Source? All I got is this which seems to indicate just speculation - https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2...it-their-team/
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03-17-2019 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
The good news is Ryan Fitzpatrick has beaten Tom Brady twice, including once on the road down 21-0.

He's older than Jay Cutler. They could've just gone with Blake Bortles with the guy who puts up some random great game and is ass most of the rest of the time. At least he's only 26, maybe something clicks. Yes, they'll draft some rook but I don't know if you want a guy who sometimes looks like you should actually do what he does but often that's actually bad to teach him.

Bortles and Fitzpatrick are both stop-gap measures. The difference between going 4-12 or 7-9 really doesn't matter. Fitzpatrick > Bortles can make sense if they believe Fitzpatrick is a better teacher to whoever they pick as the future of the franchise.
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03-17-2019 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
no need to imagine



pretty much anything short of a murder in a broad daylight, and some people got away with that as well
the way SE talks about this, I'm wondering, did I miss it that later on it came out that he actually did it? I thought he was part of the coverup
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03-17-2019 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Gettleman claiming that Haskins doesn't fit with the Giants because he isn't "elusive enough".

We all know what that's code for though: he doesn't run fast enough. I mean how often do you hear that criticism about white QBs? Gettleman is such a racist POS.

They're either gonna draft Drew Lock or inexplicably stick with Eli for another year.
Just because he ran Steve Smith, Odell Beckham, and Josh Norman all out of town as GM for literally no reason at all and none of them are white does not mean he's racist.

Seriously though, most teams at this time lie or leak lies about interest or lack of it in particular players for the draft, and yet everybody snap believes this report b/c of his history. Gettleman just lied they weren't intending on trading OBJ like just a few weeks ago (hint they definitely were).
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03-17-2019 , 05:56 PM
He basically told the world he was gonna draft Saquon weeks before he did it. Dude telegraphs his actions from a mile away.
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03-17-2019 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Gettleman claiming that Haskins doesn't fit with the Giants because he isn't "elusive enough".

We all know what that's code for though: he doesn't run fast enough. I mean how often do you hear that criticism about white QBs? Gettleman is such a racist POS.

They're either gonna draft Drew Lock or inexplicably stick with Eli for another year.
c'mon. Gettleman is a really bad GM and does not come across well at all in the media and I've got no reason to suspect he isn't racist but saying Haskins isn't elusive enough isn't racist.

I don't know if it's wrong or right either btw and it seems funny because Eli doesn't strike me as elusive in any shape or form either
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03-17-2019 , 06:13 PM
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Bortles and Fitzpatrick are both stop-gap measures. The difference between going 4-12 or 7-9 really doesn't matter. Fitzpatrick > Bortles can make sense if they believe Fitzpatrick is a better teacher to whoever they pick as the future of the franchise.
it matters a lot if you're tanking for Tu'a
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03-17-2019 , 06:46 PM
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The good news is Ryan Fitzpatrick has beaten Tom Brady twice, including once on the road down 21-0.

He's older than Jay Cutler. They could've just gone with Blake Bortles with the guy who puts up some random great game and is ass most of the rest of the time. At least he's only 26, maybe something clicks. Yes, they'll draft some rook but I don't know if you want a guy who sometimes looks like you should actually do what he does but often that's actually bad to teach him.
Exactly what I was thinking.

Won't matter much anyway since the O-line won't protect whoever they run out there
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03-17-2019 , 07:13 PM
Found this just now.......yikes.


Kevin Kietzman a KC radio host on his podcast said the more to come out is

"He was spanking or disciplining his child, and it went too far. And in the process of spanking his child, perhaps with a belt, he had the child by the arm or the arm behind his back and broke the arm. And the child went to the hospital."
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03-17-2019 , 07:27 PM
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Hot take

If Kyler Murray goes to Arizona I see him possibly breaking Baker Mayfield's rookie TD passes record. His tape is pretty sick and his arm talent is underrated. Arizona's defense should be bad as well. Forcing him to throw more.
He likely breaks the rookie QB rushing record, and maybe overall QB rushing record, frantically fleeing all the rushers his terrible line lets through
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03-17-2019 , 07:40 PM
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Found this just now.......yikes.


Kevin Kietzman a KC radio host on his podcast said the more to come out is

"He was spanking or disciplining his child, and it went too far. And in the process of spanking his child, perhaps with a belt, he had the child by the arm or the arm behind his back and broke the arm. And the child went to the hospital."
wtffff

so spanking a 3-year old with a belt is nbd, amirite?
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03-17-2019 , 07:53 PM
Adrian Peterson approves.
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03-17-2019 , 07:53 PM
Anyone know the AFC west odds? I know westgate released division odds a few days ago.

Watkins has never been able to stay healthy or be a legit #1 WR.
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03-17-2019 , 08:13 PM
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Trade player who has done **** all until this year including injury problems, who doesn't fit the new system, who cost them a trip to the SB, who cost $15M this year - for a high 2nd rounder.
Lol, hang on. 10 sacks in 2016, injured in 2017, 13 sacks last year. And you're trading him because Steve Spagnuolo, who was last a successful defensive coordinator in 2008, doesn't know how to use him.

I get if you think his totals are inflated and it's better to trade him than pay him, but "he doesn't fit the new system" means you have a coaching problem, not a talent problem.
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03-17-2019 , 08:23 PM
Chiefs basically looking at the Pats and thinking that if they can win with a strong secondary and an average pass rush, then maybe they can too.

Issue is that one team has BB and the other has Spags
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03-17-2019 , 08:54 PM
Bell contract is basically 2/28m fully guaranteed with 2 team options for 11.5m and 14m in yrs 3 and 4.

if they cut him after 2020 season, there's only $4m dead money on a scheduled cap hit of $13.5m

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-york...on-bell-12329/

so...not to go through all the rights and wrongs of the whole sitting out part again (and leaving aside the Pitt LT contract option because reports on exactly what was in it vary too much)...

by not playing the 18 season and thus exposing himself to the risk of injury and diminished value by way of poor form/reduced attractiveness because of overuse, he's guaranteed himself an additional $13.5m even if he has probably cost himself overall career earnings if we ran the sim of his career a million times
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03-17-2019 , 08:56 PM
You'd think what happened to Ray Rice would keep people in line.
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03-17-2019 , 08:59 PM
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Lol, hang on. 10 sacks in 2016, injured in 2017, 13 sacks last year. And you're trading him because Steve Spagnuolo, who was last a successful defensive coordinator in 2008, doesn't know how to use him.

I get if you think his totals are inflated and it's better to trade him than pay him, but "he doesn't fit the new system" means you have a coaching problem, not a talent problem.
Those 10 sacks were in a few game flourish and he was pretty meh the rest of 2016.

The scuttlebutt is that he's not stout enough against the run or setting the edge to play in Spags version of the 4-3. Who knows but that's what the pundits all say.
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