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07-12-2018 , 12:07 PM
In fairness the 2002 QF vs S Korea was one of the biggest travesties in the history of the tournament.
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07-12-2018 , 12:16 PM
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07-12-2018 , 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
England made it past the semis once ever in any meaningful competition. gjge. the only ppl who have any business thinking England have any football credentials are English
Could also sub Greece, Denmark, Sweden to get a good idea of England's tier in world football
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07-12-2018 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
spain made it past the quarters once since 1950. gjge. the only ppl who have any business thinking spain have any football credentials are yanks that started watching in 2010
Yeah, I was going to be pedantic and point out Spain 1950 (final four group) but you beat me to it. Still, richest clubs, some of the largest stadiums, same depth of obsessive footballing culture as ARG, BRA, URU, ITA (and definitely not FRA, probably not GER, ENG is probably closer to the obsessive ones), 40M+ people.... I've been watching a lot longer than 2010 but they'd always seemed like a country destined to win big if they could stop metiendo la pata.
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07-12-2018 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
in all seriousness there are various legit claims to be the #1 football nation on earth. england invented the game
False.

I've chosen a paper based in England to avoid accusations of bias:

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...l-8756018.html


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In the days before political correctness it used to be said that, while the Irish could take pride in the invention of the lavatory seat, it was the English who had come up with the bright idea of carving a hole in it.

So the joke really ought to be on the English this time as they continue to celebrate the 150th anniversary of the invention of organised football with a match against Scotland on Wednesday. It was the Scots who truly devised the game as we know it. Without their civilising intervention, what England might have given the world was just another version of rugby.

When the so-called Football Association' was formed at the instigation of Ebenezer Morley, a young solicitor from Hull who lived by the Thames in south-west London because rowing was among his sporting interests, what he proposed would be seen now as a basis for rugby with extra violence.

Morley's draft laws provided that a player could not only run with the ball in his hands but that opponents could stop him by charging, holding, tripping or hacking (kicking him on the shins) and initially a majority of the delegates at the historic meetings in the Freemasons Tavern agreed.

Fortunately progressive elements rebelled and, after a more civilised code emerged, the delegate from the Blackheath club – outlaw hacking, he had presciently warned, and such would be the loss of "the pluck of the game" that the French might even prevail at it – harrumphed away, eventually to help to form the Rugby Football Union.

However, the English game was still mainly a question of head-down dribbling and "backing up" (by colleagues anxious to seize what was later dubbed the "second ball"). This was not a game which would have conquered the world with its beauty.

And then the Scots had the notion of artfully distributing the ball among the players. It started with young men, from Perthshire and the Highlands mainly, who gathered at Queen's Park in Glasgow in 1867. They obtained a copy of the FA laws and amended them to conform with an almost scientific blend of dribbling and passing.

When they invented passing, these lads invented football. Not the heir to Shrove Tuesday scrimmages but the football that was to charm every continent. Far from being an English game, it was one that was conceived to confound the English because the Scots, being generally smaller than their opponents in football's oldest international rivalry, could hardly afford to take them on physically.
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07-12-2018 , 01:20 PM
yes this nonsense comes up every few years and its as lol as the most recent time, and the time before that
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07-12-2018 , 01:23 PM


Spoiler:
LOLINGERLUND
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07-12-2018 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
england tried to quick start the game while croatia were celebrating

https://streamja.com/A5jr

and during this effort against no opponent the first pass was played to an offsides player

https://i.imgur.com/oy0eBzI.gifv
Bumping for the LOLs.
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07-12-2018 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
Yeah, I was going to be pedantic and point out Spain 1950 (final four group) but you beat me to it. Still, richest clubs, some of the largest stadiums, same depth of obsessive footballing culture as ARG, BRA, URU, ITA (and definitely not FRA, probably not GER, ENG is probably closer to the obsessive ones), 40M+ people.... I've been watching a lot longer than 2010 but they'd always seemed like a country destined to win big if they could stop metiendo la pata.
Correct, and Zidane knew it too.
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07-12-2018 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Csaba
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...l-8756018.html


'outlaw hacking, he had presciently warned, and such would be the loss of "the pluck of the game" that the French might even prevail at it'
That's beautiful.
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07-12-2018 , 01:44 PM
Everybody knows the English invented football but it was the Scots who showed them how to play it.
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07-12-2018 , 01:50 PM
Scots confirmed ****ty teachers.
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07-12-2018 , 01:55 PM
Lol

Obviously didn't teach them everything.
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07-12-2018 , 02:03 PM
scotland taught us how to its coming home in 1978, when for unknown and unknowable reasons they supposedly all legit thought that archie gemmill & co were going to brang hame the werhl cap
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07-12-2018 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
england tried to quick start the game while croatia were celebrating

https://streamja.com/A5jr

and during this effort against no opponent the first pass was played to an offsides player

https://i.imgur.com/oy0eBzI.gifv
So not only did they give up like cowards and stopped trying halfway through against a nation 20x smaller, they also tried to cheat by doing the exact same thing their fans lol'd at Panama for doing?
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07-12-2018 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lenC
So not only did they give up like cowards and stopped trying halfway through against a nation 20x smaller, they also tried to cheat by doing the exact same thing their fans lol'd at Panama for doing?
And were too dumb to do it correctly. Combined football IQ in that gif is lower than the average u8 5 a side team.

Also lol at England being anywhere close to as big a football nation as the Netherlands. All you have over is a WC that you shouldn't have won.
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07-12-2018 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lenC
So not only did they give up like cowards and stopped trying halfway through against a nation 20x smaller, they also tried to cheat by doing the exact same thing their fans lol'd at Panama for doing?
Yes.

LÖL ENGLAND, now and forever.
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07-12-2018 , 02:26 PM
Somehow I didn't even hear about it when PAN did it. Reading back now, it seems "all players must be in their own half of the field of play" is pretty unambiguous. Was ENG just humiliating themselves expecting the really remote freeroll of a ref who didn't know the rules?

For that matter, why isn't it a yellow for time wasting?

But the instant winner offside is just the icing on the cake.
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07-12-2018 , 02:29 PM
why are we still talking about the losers of the tie? 2nd smallest country in the World Cup final after Uruguay.







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07-12-2018 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AKQJ10
Somehow I didn't even hear about it when PAN did it. Reading back now, it seems "all players must be in their own half of the field of play" is pretty unambiguous. Was ENG just humiliating themselves expecting the really remote freeroll of a ref who didn't know the rules?

For that matter, why isn't it a yellow for time wasting?

But the instant winner offside is just the icing on the cake.
maybe they thought if the players are off the pitch celebrating it doesn't count. but passing it to an offside player is just amazing
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07-12-2018 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MindFckr
why are we still talking about the losers of the tie?
bc england's progress was by far the most interesting and important thing going on in the tournament. now that we're out no1 cares any more except for the french
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07-12-2018 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
bc england's progress was by far the most interesting and important thing going on in the tournament. now that we're out no1 cares any more except for the french
I was quite impressed by England. Did not think they will make it this far with this squad. Good effort, but they were thoroughly outwimmed in the second-half and even extra time.

If French WIL kicks in they will win the final by 3
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07-12-2018 , 02:38 PM
BAIDS, could you comment on your brave lads trying to kick off with all Croats celebrating the goal? Please don't omit the offside in your commentary of that situation.
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07-12-2018 , 02:42 PM
uh

are u actually serious in thinking we were trying to kick off while the croats were celebrating
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07-12-2018 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
bc england's progress was by far the most interesting and important thing going on in the tournament. now that we're out no1 cares any more except for the french
I kind of care cos will get 40 quid if Croatia win. Not enough to watch the final tho.
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