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07-03-2018 , 06:51 PM
D12 is a great pickup for the Wizards who are now locks to win 50 games if reasonably healthy
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07-03-2018 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
You don't think they spoke with any of those players? It's not like we are in day 1 of free agency. You can't just be like "XXX got 1/18, they should have done that". There's a good chance XXX's price for you is way different, and that's if they'll even give you a meeting Nate.
I dont think they did. Cause look at the contracts being handed out.

MOSTLY EVERYONE IN THE NBA IS TERRIBLE AT THEIR JOB
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07-03-2018 , 06:53 PM
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i guess the way i feel about it as that i dont even see how this would be interesting as a GSW fan. the original 73 win team was amazing. built through the draft, they were talented and hard nosed. they could compete every year for years, even letting HB go, by just signing a few decent free agents.

and then durant comes.

again, maybe its just me, but as a celtics fan, i have no interest at all in having kawhi or lebron come. the team feels ours*, and a win would be sweet. coming up short would be bitter, but sweetly so. adding lebron to the team would make it completely uninteresting - id watch a few games for the novelty factor and then move on with my life.

if the celtics as constructed cant even have a competitive chance to win a title, thats a problem with the league, not the team, and im happy to watch them at least win the East but im not watching a sham finals - its just not sport. if y'all (GSW fans) enjoy it, good for you, but its clearly a negative for true fans of competitve basketball.

if the league wants to do something about it, theres really nothing about salary cap or maxes or mins, they just need to disallow top 10 players from joining good teams, either by vetoing particular moves (same way your fantasy basketball league might veto a trade by a doofus moving lebron for a couple nickels and dimes) or by creating a more holistic rule that prevents star players from moving franchises (something like once you get a certain size contract you are stuck on a team for a while unless they decide to trade you, or top X draft picks are locked into a team for 10 years, or whatever you could come up with in more than the 5 minutes ive thought about it).

* admittedly, our team as currently constructed pushes the limits of "organic", in that we swindled another franchise for draft picks and had multiple top 15-25 free agents sign (although the BRAD / hayward connection made it feel something like a home coming), and then the kyrie trade. but having anthony davis or lebron come over would just make the whole thing stupid.
I felt the same way when Durant came to warriors. I was not happy about it as I knew Warriors didn't need him and all gsw fans would hear is Durant saved the choking warriors. And it did feel like Durant decided if can't beat them join them. But it is what it is and now I embrace Durant as a warrior. Dude just trying to enjoy his basketball career so he went where it would be fun. He would win, he would play with unselfish players, basically it's just a fun party with good dudes in Gsw land. So good for him.

Now with Boogie I actually find it more exciting. I mean the dam has been broke when Durant came so now might as well put pieces in play that fill your needs. Warriors one need was a legit big man. And if he healthy is one of the best. And I always liked Boogie even as crazy as he can be sometimes. Like I think he's a good dude whose brain malfunctions dude to passion for the game and being challenged by his opponents to beast them. Like a Metta sorta. So I embrace him wholeheartedly and hope he beasts the league this year. Slight knock on Warriors was they weren't tough and more a talented outside finesse team. Let's see now. I want someone tell Boogie this team is soft lol. Him and Dray gonna be kicking some butt inside.

And I honestly don't think Boogie's one weakness(his own head) will be a problem on this team. Boogie's past issues seem to be when he didn't trust or respect his coach or teammates. Coming to gsw I think he will feel it's not his team and respect all the vet champions on the team. He just coming to improve his free agency stock next year, ring, and have fun with good dudes for one season. Sure there will be days where he says some crazy stuff but I think Warriors will just laugh it off saying that just Boogie being Boogie. Like Kobe did with Metta.

Last edited by DarkCheck; 07-03-2018 at 07:03 PM.
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07-03-2018 , 07:05 PM
Exum has played 80 games in 3 years...
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07-03-2018 , 07:06 PM
Rubio is actually pretty good.
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07-03-2018 , 07:10 PM
yea rick is really really good
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07-03-2018 , 07:13 PM
chimezie metu swatted a john collins shot
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07-03-2018 , 07:20 PM
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Exum has played 80 games in 3 years...
So he's 2.5x as healthy as Embiid? His injuries are pretty freakish.
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07-03-2018 , 07:22 PM
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So he's 2.5x as healthy as Embiid? His injuries are pretty freakish.
Embiid has actually begun good when he's played tho? Agree there's not much opportunity cost if he's actually good at basketball.
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07-03-2018 , 07:23 PM
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Utah isn't stupid.
counterpoint: Dante Exum 3/33

Who were they bidding against?
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07-03-2018 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
ng Nate.

and wrt Exum's role, what if he ends up better than Rubio who's in his contract year? What if he ends up being just as good and Rubio?
He is drawing stone dead to this outcome. Absolutely stone dead. Exum has terrible hands, a bad handle, and can't shoot. He was unplayable vs OKC because they simply sagged off and didn't let him drive then picked him up 94 feet because he can't make 5 consecutive dribbles under pressure to get the ball to the front court. Also, for all the talk of him as an elite defender, he can't really guard other point guards. Russ absolutely eviscerated him and even dudes like Aaron Brooks just blew by him again and again without even needing a screen. He's probably like a 2 that can't shoot a lick.
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07-03-2018 , 07:29 PM
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counterpoint: Dante Exum 3/33

Who were they bidding against?
Alec Burks 2.0
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07-03-2018 , 07:31 PM
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He is drawing stone dead to this outcome. Absolutely stone dead. Exum has terrible hands, a bad handle, and can't shoot. He was unplayable vs OKC because they simply sagged off and didn't let him drive then picked him up 94 feet because he can't make 5 consecutive dribbles under pressure to get the ball to the front court. Also, for all the talk of him as an elite defender, he can't really guard other point guards. Russ absolutely eviscerated him and even dudes like Aaron Brooks just blew by him again and again without even needing a screen. He's probably like a 2 that can't shoot a lick.
Tempted to put "I hope" in front of every sentence.
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07-03-2018 , 07:37 PM
SL Talk--Trae Young looks like dog ****.
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07-03-2018 , 07:39 PM
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Blind auction for all free agents with uncapped salaries

Full redraft every 5 years
Knicks here. $250m each for all the good ones. Thanks and lol money
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07-03-2018 , 07:40 PM
When you can lock up the 59th best PG in RPM, you gotta do it for 3 years/33 million.
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07-03-2018 , 07:41 PM
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counterpoint: Dante Exum 3/33

Who were they bidding against?
Remarkable. Every summer there are contracts that are instantly bad before the ink dries
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07-03-2018 , 07:42 PM
Has there been any correlation shown between SL success and real success?

I recall Jahlil Joke-a-for crushed, and it seems like it means ~nothing.
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07-03-2018 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Seadood228
You don't think they spoke with any of those players? It's not like we are in day 1 of free agency. You can't just be like "XXX got 1/18, they should have done that". There's a good chance XXX's price for you is way different, and that's if they'll even give you a meeting Nate.

and wrt Exum's role, what if he ends up better than Rubio who's in his contract year? What if he ends up being just as good and Rubio? It would suck royally to have Exum be good, leave, and you're stuck overpaying Rubio don't you think? What are they risking by any of this?
I dunno if they spoke with them. If you are paying Exum 11 and Favors 18 then I'm not sure what you are doing.

But you could've tried to offer a nice 1yr to Avery Bradley or possibly sign Smart to an offer sheet (payback for Hayward?)

Don't just spew $.

Last edited by Onlydo2days; 07-03-2018 at 07:49 PM.
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07-03-2018 , 07:45 PM
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Has there been any correlation shown between SL success and real success?

I recall Jahlil Joke-a-for crushed, and it seems like it means ~nothing.
probably not much but trae has been ****ing awful. he barely looks like a basketball player.
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07-03-2018 , 07:47 PM
I don’t think the Exum K is good per se, but there are worse bets to make than 23 y/o big guard with great pedigree who flashed signs of growth last year (16.7 PER, .566 TS%) could figure it out.

I’d have hoped Quin was consulted prior to the FO extending this deal, and if approved/wanted Exum to stay that is another good sign.

Hourly reminder that no one here knows the market/what offers were made to any player.
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07-03-2018 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
I dunno if they spoke with him. If you are paying Exum 11 and Favors 18 then I'm not sure what you are doing.

But you could've tried to offer a nice 1yr to Avery Bradley or possibly sign Smart to an offer sheet (payback for Hayward?)

Don't just spew $.
last years LOL deals:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/1...cker-all-deals

George Hill 57 over 3
Cristiano (who?) 32 over 4
Ben McLemore 12 over 2
Zbo 24 over 2
J Simmons 20 over 3
D Waiters 52 over 4
Alan Williams 17 over 3
Tony Snell 46 over 4
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07-03-2018 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Heroball
I don’t think the Exum K is good per se, but there are worse bets to make than 23 y/o big guard with great pedigree who flashed signs of growth last year (16.7 PER, .566 TS%) could figure it out.

I’d have hoped Quin was consulted prior to the FO extending this deal, and if approved/wanted Exum to stay that is another good sign.

Hourly reminder that no one here knows the market/what offers were made to any player.
Exum's growth was over 14 games and 200 minutes.
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07-03-2018 , 07:52 PM
I like Simmons. Still think a contender should deal for him.
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07-03-2018 , 08:01 PM
yea simmons' deal does not belong

and Tony Snell is a starter, getting starter money.
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