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Originally Posted by Exothermic
All i have to say is you don't trade a young top 15-30player, with multiple years left on his contract for Zhaire freaking smith & some mid tier 2021 pick, you just don't & the fact the 76ers did is why nobody i nthe league looks at Otto-Porter as no top 15-30 player.
uhhhh zhaire smith is better than mikal bridges. also 2 years younger. also that pick is unprotected, its value is currently higher than mid tier based on heat's current contracts. i'm starting to think you are wooderson's alternate account with how consistently awful your takes are.
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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
Extreme Otto love and hate within posts of each other.
Otto is not a top 15 player, nor is he top 30 or even top 40. He's a very good role player, he helps other players. He is also very overpaid
idk how you define role player, but to me he is the best "role player" if we use the 3 and D stigma. hes obv no kawhi but he's absolutely the guy i want as my 2nd best player if youre putting him next to a franchise player.
people seem to forget how good the wizards starting unit is, and how much they are hampered by having a bottom 3 coach as well as a bottom 3 GM who gave them zero help on the bench.
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Originally Posted by Heroball
The value of a 2021 pick is reduced somewhat just by virtue of the fact it’s so far in the future.
I’d say MIA 2019 unprotected would be ~12th or so today
MIA 2020 (assuming they get a bit worse) ~12th or so today
MIA 2021 (assuming they’re quite a bit worse) ~10th or so today
If it was the MIA 2019 unprotected and they were projected to be as bad next year as in 2021 it would be worth the 6th-8th pick today imo.
i'd say you're correct just in terms of raw pick EV but the black swan element raises the pick EV imo. like the 5-10% of the time miami gets some random injuries or just has a really ****ing bad roster in 2020. suddenly you have a #1 overall pick sweat in the first year high schoolers are eligible. thats insane value. i'd prob consider it worth the 7th or so pick in a random draft class, idk