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06-16-2018 , 02:34 PM
Lonzo is obv gone if LeBron comes to town.

You're kidding yourself if you don't realize this.
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06-16-2018 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by All-inMcLovin
Lonzo is obv gone if LeBron comes to town.

You're kidding yourself if you don't realize this.
very likely, otoh #fakenews
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06-16-2018 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
I guess i'm the only one high on Grayson Allen being a good 20-25min a game 3rd guard on a winning team. Don't see how he fails at that role, i see him being too athletic, too big of a dog & a pretty good shooter to fail in the nba but okay.
His athleticism is fine. I just don't see him as an efficient offensive player in the NBA. Inefficient offense and average defense doesn't scream "good 20-25 minutes a game" to me in today's NBA. But I won't rule out the possibility that he improves his shot selection enough to be useful.
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06-16-2018 , 03:51 PM
it's not really lebrons style, but i kind of wonder if the lakers are better off signing 1 year contracts around him and re-evaluating next year when they can get kawhi for free and deng is probably tradeable as an expiring

trading lonzo is pretty sad for them since he's probably the single prospect with the widest range in trade value and actual value
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06-16-2018 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by vinivici9586
it's not really lebrons style, but i kind of wonder if the lakers are better off signing 1 year contracts around him and re-evaluating next year when they can get kawhi for free and deng is probably tradeable as an expiring

trading lonzo is pretty sad for them since he's probably the single prospect with the widest range in trade value and actual value
there is no way Lebron is letting the lakers waste a year of his life
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06-16-2018 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Fallen Hero
there is no way Lebron is letting the lakers waste a year of his life
im not sure it'd be a waste if you assume he's spending a few years there. the cavs and heat were super leveraged in their first year and it ultimately hurt in years 2, 3, and 4.

and its LA. they could build a pretty reasonable team with 1 year contracts.
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06-16-2018 , 04:17 PM
if they weren't in the spot theyre in, I think they could get decent value in a Ball trade.

the Spurs dont want him and LA doesnt have leverage though
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06-16-2018 , 04:33 PM
The Spurs won 47 games when Kawhi only played 9. And they went 5-4 with him. So, they can be a 50-win team if they get useful players back and they are locked into Aldridge and Gasol for a few more years. Should they try to put the best possible win-now team together in the last years of Popovich and go for players who can contribute rather than draft picks in any Kawhi trade? If that is their goal, who should they be looking at?
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06-16-2018 , 04:43 PM
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exo is right that marcus smart would be duplicitous on the celtics if they were to sign kawhi. has nothing to do with grayson allen, they just dont need his minutes.
I don't think you know what duplicitous means.

I think the Celtics just want to go with insane switchable wing depth, so they want to have three wings on the bench behind Hayward/Tatum/Brown who are good enough to see the floor against Golden State.

I'm not sure if Grayson Allen is a fit. If he can be a decent three-point shooter who is a willing and intelligent defender and has enough athleticism to be stay on the floor, then he has value. Get a guy who is much more athletic but doesn't have a good defensive motor and makes stupid plays, and someone like Allen probably ends up ahead of him on Stevens' depth chart.

People tend to view roster construction in terms of who is needed if everyone is healthy. I think that is a bad assumption and the goal should be to build a roster that can weather a few key injuries in the playoffs. Keeping Marcus Smart makes sense for the Celtics, so long as his contract isn't crazy and they can move him in a few years or if it is a shorter contract and they can let him walk if they groom the next man up at his position.
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06-16-2018 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Exothermic
That has to be because of Lavar, Lonzo game seems like it would fit the Spurs to a T & if anybody is going to fix his shot it's them. The diss tracks + Lavar is the only reason ican see why they wouldn't want him, he has talent & plays the game the right way.
Why is it so hard to believe that the Spurs might think Ball doesn't project to be as good as you think?
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06-16-2018 , 07:41 PM
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The Spurs won 47 games when Kawhi only played 9. And they went 5-4 with him. So, they can be a 50-win team if they get useful players back and they are locked into Aldridge and Gasol for a few more years. Should they try to put the best possible win-now team together in the last years of Popovich and go for players who can contribute rather than draft picks in any Kawhi trade? If that is their goal, who should they be looking at?
I think that 47 is a bit deceiving, LMA is going into his age 34 season and coming off a great year. Besides Kawhi's injury, everyone else was pretty much completely healthy all year.

I guess it depends what the offers are, but given the strength of the West I would look at rebuilding if I were them.

If you just look at the rosters, they are't much different than the Grizzlies right now.
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06-16-2018 , 07:57 PM
What are you going to do with Pop though? Doubt he wants to deal with a rebuild. I think he should go elsewhere at this point. There are a few teams where he'd be an insane upgrade to their coach. If Kawhi doesn't come to LAL, would be sick if he can replace Walton.
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06-16-2018 , 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
The Spurs won 47 games when Kawhi only played 9. And they went 5-4 with him. So, they can be a 50-win team if they get useful players back and they are locked into Aldridge and Gasol for a few more years. Should they try to put the best possible win-now team together in the last years of Popovich and go for players who can contribute rather than draft picks in any Kawhi trade? If that is their goal, who should they be looking at?
The Spurs should be able to get both players who can help + draft picks though, it's not either or.

- Tobias Harris + Picks
- Khris Middleton
- Ingram + Kuzma
- J.Brown + Rozier + Morris
- B.Beal or Otto-Porter
- Cj Mccollum
- Rocco + #10 pick + Fultz

^^^ All those deals for Kawhi could potentially be on the table & all have established players who would help the Spurs immediately & most if not all would also include a draft pick.
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06-16-2018 , 10:19 PM
I just don't think the Spurs are in a spot where they should take a bad contract and picks and commit to a rebuild. I get the sense they want more win-now potential than something like Parsons+#4, if that were an option.
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06-16-2018 , 10:47 PM
They're not trading Lonzo guys, lol
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06-16-2018 , 10:48 PM
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They're not trading Lonzo guys, lol
Fake news on Kawhi, too?
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06-16-2018 , 10:59 PM
Lonzo is the biggest pump and dump scam since Bitcoin
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06-16-2018 , 11:44 PM
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Lonzo is the biggest pump and dump scam since Bitcoin


5,000 TZ Points awarded to thee 2018 NBA Offseason
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06-17-2018 , 01:05 AM
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Lonzo is the biggest pump and dump scam since Bitcoin
Lol. Wooderson was wrong yet again.
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06-17-2018 , 03:26 PM
Tyus Jones thought about requesting a trade but Thibs assured him that he'll get more playing time next year.
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06-17-2018 , 04:07 PM
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there is no way Lebron is letting the lakers waste a year of his life
I'M RICH, BEEATCH tho
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06-17-2018 , 04:07 PM
Crawford declined $4.33 million to get out of there
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06-18-2018 , 08:07 PM
Kawhi to suns a favorite vs the field. Sharps must have gotten some inside info
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06-18-2018 , 08:13 PM
Kawhi to the worst team in the league would be pretty sick move by SAS. I doubt he re-signs there though.
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06-18-2018 , 08:28 PM


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