I got a question, why was Booker's 5yr max 5/158 and Towns is 5/188?

Is Towns a supermax?

KAT was third team all nba.

Give me the Joker at +10000. A little extra playing time and a fourth year jump could put him close to a triple double average.

yeah I like Joker at 100-1 too since Denver profiles as more of a regular season team. Everyone stays healthy, guys make jumps, he's the best player on the team and it is a weaker year for the other guys and he could definitely be in the conversation.

Also the report that Kat has signed an extension already are fake. I think he needs to all nba again to get 30% of cap vs 25%.

Haha. Just giving you **** my dood. No way is Denver finishing 4th in the West . 6th is their ceiling as I think it might not be as jumbled as it was thus year but I hope you're wrong.

Btw, I havent even posted for almost a year until this week but thanks for noticing

jokic seems like the kind of guy you'd fade at 100-1.

last year averaged 18-10-6, what would he have to put up to get to MVP caliber?

also there are too many sharp voters these days who would probably make note of his defense and proceed to not give him the 1st place vote.

and, perhaps this is unfair, but he plays in denver. and he's a european guy who afaik doesnt have any sponsorships. whatever stats you think he needs to put up to get mvp consideration, he's probably gonna have to do 10% better than that because as it stands he's a total unknown to the casual NBA fan.

i realize NBA fans arent voting for MVP, writers are, but i think the subconscious impact of not wanting to vote for someone because they never show up on TNT or SportsCenter is a very real thing. kawhi was probably the MVP 2 years ago (voted #1 by zach lowe) but he lost to Westbrook/Harden.

Can Jokic really increase his minutes or efficiency that much? His amazing PER/TS% finally leveled out this season. I'm not sure what it would take for him to become an MVP. Denver would likely need a top 2 seed and he would need to increase his scoring, assists or rebounding a decent amount while improving significantly on his D.

Clayton,
I think he pretty much has to average the triple double or be close to it just to have enough hype surrounding his name. Once people see his game they would be on the bandwagon. 4 extra assists per game is pretty unlikely, but Joker is such a smart player I think he could "manufacture" an assist here or there.

Denver's core of Murray-Joker-Harris are entering their 3,4, and 5th seasons so substantial jumps are certainly in play. Denver needs a Montrezl Harrell type player to pair with Joker and they are set for the future.

Joker is drawing stone dead to ever with any MVPs, but seems fairly lockish to end half of his remaining years in the top 10 voting. Yeah I just don't see a guy who may top out at 20/12/9 looking that sexy despite all the wins.

I think the best long-shot odds are Tatum and Mitchell. Tatum because if Kyrie misses time he'll take a big load for a very good team, and Donovan because IMO I think people are sleeping on how good the Jazz project to be. I could see them winning 55+ and getting the #2 seed quite often, which if DM improves could be enough to get him attention as the best player on one of the best teams, even though he won't be.

Well, that report was found out to be some unemployed reporter making stuff up for fun but it's a solid question none-the-less. Jimmy is a UFA and him walking is a disaster, while giving him a 5-year max will probably be not good either. Thibs won't trade Jimmy because Thibs would be fired and never have a job in basketball again and he has nothing else to live for.

A deep dive is probably going to get you to the opinion of "No way is Jokic winning MVP"

But I think looking at the west as a bloodbath and Denver as a high upside regular season team, you can begin to see it as a possibility. If they get the #2 seed then it is atleast possible.

Maybe Vanderbilt will be that guy. The person who came out of high-school seemed to have a lot of that in him before the foot injuries.

The Wizards have the 2nd best starting lineup in the East after the 76ers, as we sit here tonight.

When Wall plays well, he is a beast. When his midrange game is missing then its trouble.

Wall makes $37 million in 19-20;

Wiggins for Wall, who says no?

Jimmy Butler hates Wiggins, that is not up for dispute

They are not better than Celtics as constructed. Each separate players value perhaps, but not as teams. That's what counts right?

Wall-Beal-Porter-Markieff-Howard > Rozier-Brown-Tatum-Marcus-Horford

As we sit here today. That will change

While some MVPs have scored less, I would guess that next season's MVP will score at least 25 ppg, unless they add top-level offense to DPOY-caliber play or do something as freakish as Westbrook's triple double average. It's going to be hard to have all the top seven guys having injuries or down years, so a dark horse probably needs the combination of scoring 25 ppg and the narrative of leading a 55+ win team.

A non-PG averaging a triple double might be freakish enough, so if Jokic has a slim chance of doing that, then he might have a slim chance of being MVP.

Even if Kyrie misses the entire season, I can't see Tatum being given a big enough role on offense to do that. He might get there by the end of the season, but he will have to build to it.

If you are talking about lineups if they played a hypothetical game tonight, you should consider how well Porter has recovered from his fasciotomy.

Did you forget about the Celtics or were you being disingenuous so that you can spring some stupid gotcha trap? Sarah Huckabee Sanders is rumored to be resigning by the end of the year and you sound like you would be a perfect replacement for her.

Why would you say that? LeBron didn't make anyone look good last year.

Put Lebron on TOR for w no Derozan or no Simmons for Philly and either team titles last year
Put Lebron on BOS w/ no Kyrie or Hayward and they title last year
Put Lebron on IND and they title last year
Put Lebron on WASand they title last year

Seriously stop dude. Lebron did all he could last year

Did he make Kyrie look smart for wanting to leave?

On an individual level you are right. He was simply amazing.

But that wasn't what the discussion was about.

A comment was made that he could make Melo look good.

How can he do that when he couldn't make any of his teammates last year look good? There's no evidence there.

Do you think he made any of his teammates look better than they actually were last year? It's not like he made Nance look like an All Star or something (which is basically the task at hand of making Melo look good).

Also, I disagree with re putting him on any of those teams and then beating GSW.

So how does Orlando move forward from here

Seems impossible to be good while playing all 3 of Bamba/Isaac/Gordon together.