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Old 06-23-2018, 03:03 PM   #201
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This has always felt like a solid barometer to me. Mitchell is 22 to begin next season

https://gyazo.com/d461c9b0462424620f2042c5449927f9
I'd say that's not the best argument for DMitch, considering the average player's WS/48 is .6 their 21 year old season and DMitch's was .95.

I think he's obviously a much better prospect than that, but I think he's quite the dog to be a top 10 player at any sustained point in his career, although like Wade/Lowry I think he could very well be a top 10 guy for a year or two in his mid-late 20s.

The only statistical comp for him who bucked that trend was Wade.
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:09 PM   #202
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Are those Jokic stats including playoffs game or regular season only?
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:11 PM   #203
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Are those Jokic stats including playoffs game or regular season only?
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:11 PM   #204
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Jokic issue is no playoff games and he hasn’t played serious minutes yet, his first two seasons were 27 minutes per game or less. Jokic is definitely an advanced stats whore but I think his usage is an issue when his d just isn’t great for a big.
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:16 PM   #205
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I’ll take Paul George
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:18 PM   #206
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Re: 2018 NBA 5 Year Dynasty Draft

Jokic and Gobert are actually pretty interesting, since both kind of lock in above average/top 5 O/D, both make it damn near impossibly to be top 5 in the opposite side of the ball, and both have some playoff issues against 5 out lineups
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:19 PM   #207
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I'd say that's not the best argument for DMitch, considering the average player's WS/48 is .6 their 21 year old season and DMitch's was .95.

I think he's obviously a much better prospect than that, but I think he's quite the dog to be a top 10 player at any sustained point in his career, although like Wade/Lowry I think he could very well be a top 10 guy for a year or two in his mid-late 20s.

The only statistical comp for him who bucked that trend was Wade.
That curve is not meant to approximate Mitchell's WS/48, I'm simply showing what I think an approximate aging curve looks like.
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:22 PM   #208
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Jokic issue is no playoff games and he hasnít played serious minutes yet, his first two seasons were 27 minutes per game or less. Jokic is definitely an advanced stats whore but I think his usage is an issue when his d just isnít great for a big.
This is a valid argument possibly, but I would think the fact that his production has increased as the minutes-loads got heavier would tell that story and it's been quite the opposite.

Year 1 - He'll struggle if he plays against starters
Year 2 - He'll struggle once he plays more minutes
Year 3 - People will figure him out and attack him relentlessly.

Post ASB 2017-18 numbers:

35 MPG, 22pts/11rebs/7assists on 63%TS, 46% 3PT on 4A/game. And the team had a +7.3PD with him on the court.

Doesn't appear that he's slowing down.

Also during his April run where they needed to go 7-0 his numbers:

39MPG, 26,12,8 on 61TS%, +8.3PD

Until he plays in the post-season we will never know, but I think the trends point to him being a beast once he gets there.
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Old 06-23-2018, 03:37 PM   #209
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Just me or does embedding images not work?

Anyways, considering tings just disappeared and vini went, I'm going.

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Old 06-23-2018, 04:23 PM   #210
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It’s sad that we probably won’t see Jokic in the playoffs till he’s 30 or some ****. I’d love to see him play defense vs these current Rockets or Warriors for an entire series.
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:29 PM   #211
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Jokic and Gobert are actually pretty interesting, since both kind of lock in above average/top 5 O/D, both make it damn near impossibly to be top 5 in the opposite side of the ball, and both have some playoff issues against 5 out lineups
don't think this holds in this league b/c the talent distribution will be much closer to uniform than in the nba. it will remain true though that you won't be able to guarantee legitimate contention without one of a handful of players
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Old 06-23-2018, 04:38 PM   #212
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mmmmm. I guess it's time

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Old 06-23-2018, 04:47 PM   #213
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I’ll select someone in ~30

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Old 06-23-2018, 04:48 PM   #214
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Shouldnít we wait an hour cuz itís a second skip?
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:02 PM   #215
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just realized i misread the format lol
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:07 PM   #216
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Shouldnít we wait an hour cuz itís a second skip?
Canít remember doing a draft w/o auto-skip. Itís your draft, so if you want I can delete the pick. Ainít no thing.
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:13 PM   #217
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Canít remember doing a draft w/o auto-skip. Itís your draft, so if you want I can delete the pick. Ainít no thing.
Itís fine. Been almost 40 min now
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:15 PM   #218
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Re: 2018 NBA 5 Year Dynasty Draft

Draymond it is then



Jimmy Butler (29)
Draymond Green (28)

Draymond can guard 1-5 (see video), rebound, and pass. He does all of these things at an all-star level and this versatility and highly rare skill set complements many different line-ups.

Shooting is his primary weakness (outside of disqualifying antics), but his ability to guard 5s significantly minimizes that as an issue (as he’s basically Embiid from the perimeter).

Jimmy’s efficiency should get a nice bump playing with Dray, as the former all-star won’t need to expend as much energy on defense or playmaking and will have more quality chances created for him by the league’s best (only?) point center.

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Old 06-23-2018, 05:29 PM   #219
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2018 NBA 5 Year Dynasty Draft

I actually rilly like the Draymond pick and pairing with Jimmy.

However he's not the only point center (Jokic).
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Old 06-23-2018, 05:40 PM   #220
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Taking a 25 year old scorer, coming off 2 great seasons. entering his prime. plucking him out of a bad situation with a terrible coach and awful teammates. he's participated in team USA activities. The 3rd overall pick in 2012

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Old 06-23-2018, 06:51 PM   #221
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noze skipped. daro on the clock
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Old 06-23-2018, 06:53 PM   #222
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The Kyrie Klay team should rain some fire down. I like it.
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Old 06-23-2018, 07:03 PM   #223
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Can we change order of Kyrie/Klay picks? Tilts me that Klay is the 1st rounder and Kyrie the 2nd.

Would also bother Kyrie probably. Not the way you want to start off a franchise.
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Old 06-23-2018, 07:14 PM   #224
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Ill take Jaylen Brown
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Old 06-23-2018, 07:21 PM   #225
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This is total bs stop the draft right now. I was improperly skipped
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