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09-10-2018 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 425kid
Don't cut out someone's legs while they're playing the ball? No clue how that play is at all controversial
Why are you commenting when you clearly haven't seen it?

Here you go, you can see it for the first time:



Cut out his legs? By having a goalkeeper jump on his back?

If that had happened at the other end, I would've been having a go at Pickford and you would've post lolford or something
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09-10-2018 , 03:33 PM
At least the whining continues.
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09-10-2018 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
Why are you commenting when you clearly haven't seen it?
apparently you're the only one that saw it, congrats
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09-10-2018 , 05:03 PM
Thoughts on the following please:

FIFA/UEFA should use the UNL format (which I actually like) to promote more inter-confederation play. Take a team like England. In the typical Olympiad we'll play something like the following number of competitive matches.

8 UNL matches
10 Euros qualifiers
4 Euros Matches
10 World Cup qualifiers
4 World Cup matches

= 36 matches. Of these 33 to 34 will be intra-UEFA matches. It's boring. England against Cameroon, France against Japan, let's see more of that.

So keep the UNL, turning it into the de facto Euros, and every four years have UEFA + one out of Africa/(Austral)asia/N. America while S. America plays in a tournament with the other two.

e.g

2028: UEFA + CAF; CONMEBOL + CONCACAF + AFC
2032: UEFA + CONCACAF; CONMEBOL + CAF + AFC
2036: UEFA + AFC; CONMEBOL + CONCACAF + CAF

All the other confederations would have their own biennial UNL type events.

Alternatively keep the Euros, Copa América etc. but create two UNL - old world and new world say, so you'd have plenty of intra-confederation play outside of the very top leagues of the "UNL"s which would be dominated by UEFA and CONMEBOL respectively (but it's high enough variance that you'd get e.g African teams made it to League A)
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09-10-2018 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FishNChips1
Enjoy Erik Hamren 27
I take it he's no good then?

Tbf I don't think that result was on the coach. He picked ~the team/formation his predecessors would have.

I'll be at the game tomorrow night, kind of expecting more of the same tbh.
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09-10-2018 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
Thoughts on the following please:

FIFA/UEFA should use the UNL format (which I actually like) to promote more inter-confederation play. Take a team like England. In the typical Olympiad we'll play something like the following number of competitive matches.

8 UNL matches
10 Euros qualifiers
4 Euros Matches
10 World Cup qualifiers
4 World Cup matches

= 36 matches. Of these 33 to 34 will be intra-UEFA matches. It's boring. England against Cameroon, France against Japan, let's see more of that.

So keep the UNL, turning it into the de facto Euros, and every four years have UEFA + one out of Africa/(Austral)asia/N. America while S. America plays in a tournament with the other two.

e.g

2028: UEFA + CAF; CONMEBOL + CONCACAF + AFC
2032: UEFA + CONCACAF; CONMEBOL + CAF + AFC
2036: UEFA + AFC; CONMEBOL + CONCACAF + CAF

All the other confederations would have their own biennial UNL type events.

Alternatively keep the Euros, Copa América etc. but create two UNL - old world and new world say, so you'd have plenty of intra-confederation play outside of the very top leagues of the "UNL"s which would be dominated by UEFA and CONMEBOL respectively (but it's high enough variance that you'd get e.g African teams made it to League A)
Much I was love to see England play Argentina and Brazil more regularly, I think the way it is is one of the reasons the World Cup is still the pinnacle.

International football has become far more devalued since we can see so many of these 'exotic' players in the Premier League or Champions League.

The World Cup is the only competition that still has that bit of mystique about it, a tournament where you can find out about a player for the first time who you've never heard of. Granted, it's nothing like it was pre 90s but it's still there to an extent.
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09-10-2018 , 06:50 PM
Firstly I deliberately kept UEFA & CONMEBOL apart, because that would be too much of de facto World Cup. And as constituted UEFA teams would play in a competition with, say, African teams once every twelve years (outside the World Cup) so you'd still have plenty of mystique.
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09-10-2018 , 08:30 PM
Nah Conmebol + UEFA combined Nations league would be amazing
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09-10-2018 , 08:51 PM
If you're going to do that just make it a World Nations League and have divisions three and below segregated by location so that Palau don't have to do a 23,774KM round trip to face San Marino. My only objection to that is it might devalue the World Cup?
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09-10-2018 , 09:07 PM
World Nations League sounds great to me. I don't care if it devalues the World Cup a little. I hate the current international calendar where there are basically only meaningful games for us every 4 years. And Brazil/Argentina should play Italy,Germany,France,England way more often.
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09-10-2018 , 09:34 PM
England have played Brazil once in 48 years and four times total (competitive matches). Granted that makes England-Brazil matches more special, but still, once every fifty years? Couldn't we play them once every eight years and still have it be a big deal? I thought the paucity was because England haven't gone deep in all that many WCs but even the krauts have only played Brazil twice/thrice in competitive matches. They'd never met in a competitive match before 2002, crazy! (Does Confederations Cup count as 'competitive'? If so their first competitive match was 1999, still wild since both of them reach the World Cup semis like half the time).
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09-10-2018 , 10:32 PM
Yeah I remember in 2002 hearing that Brazil/Germany had never met at the world cup before and being mind blown. I'd be down for a world nations league.

Also lol at that goal being disallowed. I was just about to hit reply on an "It's coming home!" post itt when it got inexplicably ruled out.
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09-11-2018 , 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
Thoughts on the following please:

FIFA/UEFA should use the UNL format (which I actually like) to promote more inter-confederation play. Take a team like England. In the typical Olympiad we'll play something like the following number of competitive matches.

8 UNL matches
10 Euros qualifiers
4 Euros Matches
10 World Cup qualifiers
4 World Cup matches

= 36 matches. Of these 33 to 34 will be intra-UEFA matches. It's boring. England against Cameroon, France against Japan, let's see more of that.

So keep the UNL, turning it into the de facto Euros, and every four years have UEFA + one out of Africa/(Austral)asia/N. America while S. America plays in a tournament with the other two.

e.g

2028: UEFA + CAF; CONMEBOL + CONCACAF + AFC
2032: UEFA + CONCACAF; CONMEBOL + CAF + AFC
2036: UEFA + AFC; CONMEBOL + CONCACAF + CAF

All the other confederations would have their own biennial UNL type events.

Alternatively keep the Euros, Copa América etc. but create two UNL - old world and new world say, so you'd have plenty of intra-confederation play outside of the very top leagues of the "UNL"s which would be dominated by UEFA and CONMEBOL respectively (but it's high enough variance that you'd get e.g African teams made it to League A)
Counter-argument (I've stated this one before but FIFA aren't returning my calls):

Every off summer (no Euros/Copa America/WC), there should be a huge knockout tournament with no seedings. The teams ranked from 211 to 128 have one playoff match to get to the main tourney. It would be absolute carnage.
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09-11-2018 , 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by joejoe1337
Counter-argument (I've stated this one before but FIFA aren't returning my calls):

Every off summer (no Euros/Copa America/WC), there should be a huge knockout tournament with no seedings. The teams ranked from 211 to 128 have one playoff match to get to the main tourney. It would be absolute carnage.
Every off summer should be a League vs League competition.
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09-11-2018 , 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by joejoe1337
Counter-argument (I've stated this one before but FIFA aren't returning my calls):



Every off summer (no Euros/Copa America/WC), there should be a huge knockout tournament with no seedings. The teams ranked from 211 to 128 have one playoff match to get to the main tourney. It would be absolute carnage.


I like this idea too although you need to work out that math. After the playoff match there would be ~160 teams not 128.
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09-11-2018 , 09:05 AM
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I like this idea too although you need to work out that math. After the playoff match there would be ~160 teams not 128.
Sorry I just meant however many to get to a bracketable number
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09-11-2018 , 09:59 AM
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Sorry I just meant however many to get to a bracketable number
We know. He was just being a smart arse.


League v League sounds fun. It’d have to have a max 1 player per club rule though.
One of my favourite matches as a kid was the Football League v Rest of the World match at Wembley in 1987

https://www.theguardian.com/football...tball-festival
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09-11-2018 , 11:10 AM
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Every off summer should be a League vs League competition.
LÖLbandit would be on the edge of his seat for sure.
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09-11-2018 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by joejoe1337
Counter-argument (I've stated this one before but FIFA aren't returning my calls):

Every off summer (no Euros/Copa America/WC), there should be a huge knockout tournament with no seedings. The teams ranked from 211 to 128 have one playoff match to get to the main tourney. It would be absolute carnage.
Who had the idea first? Here's my post from July in the WC thread.
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So with this whole expansion to 48 teams, I thought "**** it, just make it 211* teams". Would make the whole thing a bit more like the Olympics, and you could ditch the ~900 qualifying matches as well. Can still hold the tournament in six weeks if there are enough stadiums, which shouldn't be a problem with multiple hosts.

8 matches a day for Round 1 to 3 (two concurrent matches three hours apart, like 12pm, 3pm, 6pm, 9pm)

Round 1 (Day 1-11, Match 1-83): Bottom 166 teams play a knock-out round. 83 winners advance to the 128-team-bracket with the top 45.
Round 2 (Day 12-19, Match 84-147)
Round 3 (Day 20-23, Match 148-179)
Round 4 (Day 24-27, Match 180-195)
Round 5 - Round of 16(Day 28-31, Match 196-203)
Round 6 - Quarter-Finals (Day 32-35, Match 204-207)
Round 7 - Semi-Finals (Day 37+38, Match 208-209)
Round 8 - Final (Day 41) (no 3rd place match, ldo)

FWIW, here's how a current bracket would look with FIFA rankings: https://challonge.com/FIFAWCBracket

Upsides:
- Lots of football, no meaningless qualifying/group matches.
- A top 45 team still has to play 7 matches to win the title
- Top teams can ease into the tournament with their opening match
- Massive lolz if England drops out to Namibia in Round 2
- More $$$ for FIFA?

Downsides:
- Probably a lot of ****ty games, I guess?

* or however many members FIFA has at the time of the tournament.
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09-11-2018 , 11:32 AM
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Who had the idea first? Here's my post from July in the WC thread.
I've been saying it for years. But I'm not greedy, I'll happily share credit.
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09-11-2018 , 12:59 PM
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I've been saying it for years. But I'm not greedy, I'll happily share credit.
You'd never fit in at FIFA or UEFA with that attitude.
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09-11-2018 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by xXDeuce7Xx
I take it he's no good then?

Tbf I don't think that result was on the coach. He picked ~the team/formation his predecessors would have.

I'll be at the game tomorrow night, kind of expecting more of the same tbh.
He's probably the most disliked coach in Sweden after all the awful results he had with our NT, I was quite surprised you went for him. Only good thing he did was bringing Zlatan back

Enjoy the game! (even though you're off to a bad start)
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09-11-2018 , 03:49 PM
Croatia making England look decent.
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09-11-2018 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FishNChips1
He's probably the most disliked coach in Sweden after all the awful results he had with our NT, I was quite surprised you went for him. Only good thing he did was bringing Zlatan back

Enjoy the game! (even though you're off to a bad start)
Maybe the thought process wasn't much deeper than "the last swedish coach we had worked out pretty well, let's do that again". His appointment definitely came out of the blue.

Main takeaways from the game: Belgium are good, we couldn't touch them for most of the game even if they hardly looked like they got out of 2nd gear. Hazard is an alien. Lukaku looks even more clumsy and awkward irl.

Kind of bummed I didn't get to see KDBGOAT if we were going to get slaughtered anyway.
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09-12-2018 , 01:27 AM
Clearly the new format has generated more interest in friendlies.
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