I really want Draymond to go somewhere else because it's so obvious how mediocre he is, but everyone just thinks that's crazy. You know how easy it is for an NBA player to look good when you have KD/KT/SC on your team? And even still he can't score for ****.

I bet there's 25-30 guys you could put in place of Draymond who would easily do mostly exactly the same thing as him.

Also, Luka Doncic is so much damn better than I thought he was going to be. No one told me his shot was so good. Kid is for real.

I think I mentionned it in the draft thread

People that didn't watched him play, looked at his 3 pt% and saw a meh number. People that watched him knew like half of his 3 pointer were end of shotclock prayers, and he was hitting them at a decent rate

Lol Suns, Lol Kings, Lol Hawks

I had seen highlights and watched a few games, but yeah, I was concerned that his 3 pt % was merely adequate. That thing is super smooth. He seems to have a few rook moments where he misses badly, but as his confidence grows and his leash is further loosened, I could see the percentage actually go up and his volume increase. He might Curry a little bit.

The Sixers' starting lineup for tonight was just announced, and it's going to be Simmons/Redick/Butler/Chandler/Embiid; on balance, seems quite a bit better than when Fultz was starting at the 2. I'll be interested to see what his playing time ends up being over the next few weeks or so.

In other Fultz news, apparently his camp split with Hanlen a few weeks ago: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/7...r-drew-hanlen/

The #TTP Twitter gestalt is that the Fultz camp was (understandably) upset at leaks, which they presume came from Hanlon, attributing Fultz's issues entirely to the yips, probably because it was both a) at least partially true and b) designed to shift blame about Fultz's shot still having a pelvis entirely away from Hanlon himself. Coincidentally, there are now reports coming out that Fultz's initial injury last year was due to a motorcycle accident; regardless of the truth or convenient timing, I ultimately don't think that makes it better than his issues being caused by a freak in-game injury, since regardless of whether or not it was contractually allowed, donorcycling it up at that point in his life/career is pretty stupid. As much as it pains me to say it, it's pretty obvious Tatum never would have done that ****; I'm starting to wish Fultz had just eschewed truly dangerous hobbies and joined Tatum as a Boozer-esque shoe polish based hairline modifier/definer aficionado, but here we are.

how many guys with his speed and agility can shoot 3's and are strong enough to defend most 5's, on top of the non-athletic traits you need to be a DPOY? Even if he's a despicable piece of ****, he's extremely valuable to the warriors, and to any team focused on beating the warriors

He shot 30% from 3 last year and 31% the year before on mostly wide open looks. Hes a great defender but the shooting isn't what makes him good.

Great defender is an understatement

If Draymond were put on the trade block how many teams are lining up to offer legitimate assets to acquire him? Guy is mediocre and luckboxed the perfect situation. Would be absolute ass and somehow even more insufferable on a non-top 3 team.



Is, was and will be the absolute truth and the hands down best player of that draft. Trey Young for him is just mindblowing lolz

Draymond is a complimentary star who does a lot of great things and doesn't need to score to be great. He's a better player than someone like Devin Booker.

"KD you're a ring-chasing ***** who only cares about riding other team's success"

"Uhh, didn't you call me every day begging for me to come, then call me crying after Lebron pushed your **** in?"

Who is going to give up anything of value for KD as a rental? I mean maybe they can get Frankie Smokes and Kevin Knox, but this isn't like the Jimmy situation where it's like 95% he signs a long-term deal to the team that trades for him.

A Montecore sighting.

What do you think about trading him now (or pre-TD)? I think that's the smart play at this point because I can't see any path to his value increasing within the next 300 days or so.

Agreed. Durant is probably gone even if Draymond gets hit by a bus tomorrow, but it's still highly likely that the disfunction will subside when Curry returns.

if you play a basketball video game and you control a defender away from the ball. that's what draymond green is

Lol at trading Durant. My god

only if he's not coming back

I think it's unlikely they'd be able to get enough of an asset in return that would be of a high enough perceived value that they'd be willing to cut bait at this point . . . Even though Brand is a "new" GM, he was part of the previous management team and likely had some input into the selection, and under half a season of total games played is awfully soon. Even if there's only a 10% chance he turns into a useful piece, I think they'd think that better than flipping him for someone that tops out as a fringe rotation guy in a year they have zero title equity.

Trading Durant even if you know he's not coming back is still bad.

Suspending a player for locker-room talk surely is a rare occasion but it does not have to point towards the extraordinary, it's not like we have many precedents where regular season games mattered as little as it does to the warriors which makes it easier to suspend your player if you want to send a message or whatever

I wonder if they suspend him if they weren't playing ATL

for this year, maybe

but getting a bunch of stuff instead of nothing probably means a lot for the last 3-5 years of this Steph/Klay/Dray/etc championship window


something for them to consider anyway

Only teams regular season matters to are the tankers

Probably would be very beneficial for Dray's contract negotiations if KD leaves. If KD stays, Dray is going to have to take a massive cut to stay with GSW.

I can't image they get any additional championship equity (over what they would lose) by trading him. They won't get a like for like.