Ya i dude returning to his hometown team that had not made the playoffs in 5 yrs and won 33 games the prior year is remotely similar the same as joining up with a 73 win team that eliminated you in the conference finals in 7 games.

Its bizarre to me that someone could possibly be this terrible at logic, facts, and context. Like, why wpuld you make a post like that and expose yourself as so stupid?

speaks to the value of spacing. even at that time people knew 3pt shooting was valuable. no way he could get up shots with volume of someone like klay though.

also, he was born in lebanon b/c his dad taught at the american univeristy of beirut

I know this isn't new, but two days off between every game (except 3 to 4) is pretty annoying.

I know we've discussed this before, but this revisionist history regarding the Cavs is hilarious, people we're saying LeBron was an idiot and wasting his prime, that even if the team was good it would take them some time to be competitive, etc. Not it's the same as Miami or freaking Durant joining the warriors

Yeah not annoying if you want LeBron to perform at his highest level. And you should.

I assume that the "LeBron invented that ****" comment was a reference to his move to the Heat with Wade and Bosh.

I was actually talking about Miami when I said he 'invented it', but anyway, you're doing a bit of revisionist history yourself. Cleveland instantly became firm title favourites after the move, then shortened more after the Kevin Love trade. People act like they were some come from nowhere miracle story that they won, just because they underperformed in the lolregularseason.

EDIT: here we go: http://www.sportsoddshistory.com/nba...a&a=finals&o=r

Started season +275. "Unfair super team" Warriors +2800

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LeBron going back to Cleveland was pretty cool. Everything he's done since has been abhorrent tho.

if you run last years finals over and over lebron wins < 10% of the time. lebroncelots are basically the same as trumpets gloating. refs basically comey'd steph because they (correctly) thought the lerbons were going to get crushed. god you insufferable hipsters even hated the warriors when all their stars were 100% homegrown and still crushing. speaking of crushing, banzai, gods work itt.

Everyone absolutely loved the warriors in 2015, then a lot of people got off the bandwagon when they acted like complete ******s during their stomps in the 73 win season

see heres the things about percentage of times that the cavs win last year.



and lol at blaming the refs. thats the epitome of wanting.

Curry has choked in 2/2 finals. You might want to plug that in to your algorithm

Finals MVP Iggy wasn't home grown. Most of their rotation other than the Big 3 aren't home grown. McCaw is the next highest minute "home grown" talent on the team.

Cleveland is even worse; if you don't count returning Bron, they just have Kyrie/Tristan who are home grown and play minutes but that's today's NBA. Even the Spurs aren't that home grown anymore.

Warriors fans, don't forget without Kyrie for 5 games and Love for 6 in the finals 2 years ago, Brons took to you to 6 with Delladova, Mosgov and James Jones playing significant minutes.

C'mon man, having the Big 3 be home grown is huge, that's basically the whole team. Also Barnes was. 4 out of the starting 5. That's about as home grown as it gets.

Also 26/5/6 on .585TS% "choking" ITT

I mean this post is no better. He returned to the Cavs knowing that he would have Kyrie and Kevin Love at a minimum, and that was peak Kevin Love who had tons of people fawning over him, which included Lebron and me to be fair. And people criticizing Durant for joining the team that beat him is just as yawn worthy as people criticizing Lebron for leaving the city that loved him.

Dude, maybe some people were saying that, but the Cavs were title favorites before the season started FFS. Lebron is not stupid, and he wasn't about to go back home to some crappy team with no pieces.

It's choking compared to his godlike regular season numbers and getting owned by KLove.

Warriors getting hated on is simply because they are pathetic whiny brats. Home grown is w/e. When you act like Draymond and Steph on the court you are unlikable no matter where you came from.

People are so proud of themselves for having discovered how to calculate the expected value of a single shot that they are convinced that their fathers had no clue. Obviously there are plenty of people thinking about the total value of the shot, it's just hard to quantify. One has all these individual stats, shots, rebounds, etc. but if one wants to know which shot led to which rebound, one has to do it oneself with the tapes, and you need a computer program to do that for you or your sample will be far too small. You need data associating the subsequent two (or whatever) minutes of play with each shot.

Then there are coaching and fan fashions. Right now we love threes, everyone outside the arc, and Jimmy Butler. Old school people know this is wrong because all they see is Jimmy Butler.

Wrong year champ

Hopefully this series makes up for the joke of a playoff we've had so far. In, I guess.

In. Please be a good series... Warriors in 5

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You cherry picked his stats from the 2015 finals and you think that supports your argument? He was matched up with delavadova and still underperformed. Last year he shot 40%, scored 22 a game, and made critical mistakes in key situations.

I'm not trying to pile on the guy, he seems quite nice, but this idea that you could run the series multiple times and the warriors would usually win is ludicrous when their best player doesn't play well under the pressure of the finals.

Oh wow my bad. He was significantly worse than I thought last year. Figured he managed to cobble together those stats. Now that he's not injured he'll likely perform better.