True, but this draft also has every player on a hypothetical 1 year contract. Like you got 35m in cap space and want to throw it to very good player A because you signed 1m stud Player B? Cool. But irl Player B will be expiring and Player A is going to have to get paid for 4+ years

Gary Harris 2.55 mill

IT2 6.26
Gary Harris 2.55
BLAKE 29.7

really wanted Harris. I was looking through today and saw what he makes and thought he's definitely a 2nd round pick.

i like the norm powell pick - altho it's annoying that he will continue to be underutilised in toronto most likely

harris another solid pick - that team is setting up to be pretty iffy on d, but at least the offense will be legit

harris is way better than Norm.

The best direction sure isnt taking Iggy for 14 million. His usage is unprecedented for a wing. He was basically Ben Wallace, Tyson Chandler, Dennis Rodman (11 usage, 10 fga per 100 possessions etc) on offense. And even though hes a good defender hes not capable of changing a game defensively the way those guys can.

I like the Gary Harris pick a lot. Good value and fit. With IT it was clear that a 2 who could guard 1s is key, and Harris lack of length and strength make him a good fit for guarding down too. Also he's already developed great chemistry and fit with an elite passing big in Jokic so playing with another one in Blake should be a good fit.

Decent shot I should have taken him over Norm, but I wanted more defensive versatility and I do worry that Harris could be quite overrated on D in general and that with Jokic he's currently in the very best situation to succeed for his game and could be overrated overall because of it. Those 2 seem to have elite chemistry and having an added passer/ball handler on the court in Jokic keeps the ball out of Harris's hands and utilizes his cutting and shooting.

i agree that harris>norm, but i think they're closer than their stats. norm plays on the lolraps while harris gets to play with one of the best passing big men ever

also imo defensive positional versatility is in norm's favour, but ultimately norm is more of an unknown quantity because he's still a backup, and of course his production has been worse on a per-minute basis anyway (at least last year anyway)

Yeah there is something to be said for being able to guard more than 1's and 2's. Avery Bradley and Gary Harris are very similar in that their rep has been as defenders (AB moreso), but I suspect their inability to guard the big wings and even big guards of the world might have something to do with why their actual defensive metrics rate them lower.

Norm Powell at least in theory is more of a 1-3 defender due to his prototypical wingspan and standing reach, but like McBeef said it's more of a function of being a mystery box.

With that said, I think Harris >>> Booker with Steph and > AB with Lebron, even if salaries were equal which they are not. I can't find many statistical arguments that AB is that much better of a defender than Harris other than the testimony of his peers, and GH is simply way better on offense. I know people talk about his chemistry with Jokic, but he's actually one of the few players on the team who's numbers stay consistent both with and without Joker (from 62TS on to 60TS off, same usage per NBAwowy).

Steph's greatest strength other than his shooting is imo his brain and lack of ego--what makes him the best offensive player ITL is his ability and willingness to be a cog in a beautiful machine and then get a little selfish when needed and sphincters start to tighten up. On a normal possession, he the ball up very fast and proceeds to screen, cut, and move his way around the court with the focus on finding a crack in the defense that can be exploited.. IMO you want a player with a similar agenda who plays off that as well, and I don't see Booker in that role.

Lebron is a different animal, but I could see GH being similarly complimentary. AB is also good at that, but Harris is just a little bit better at everything on that side of the ball imo.

Obviously the fit with IT2/Blake is very good offensively and charder has left himself with a lot of space to grab defenders who do a little more offensively.

Seadood taking Denver players over anyone. Shocker!

This thread is teaching me the Nuggets should prob title in 17-18

I'm going to be really disappointed if my Joker love was just me falling for Seadoods spells.

Gary Harris was the guy I thought dood was taking round 2.

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Good pick charder

Next several picks:

neemahb
loldolphins
LFC_USA
DodgerIrish
JMurder
McBeef
MagnumMike

Next up is Klay/Marc team. Interested to see where it goes.

There should be a penalty for not reaching the salary floor

I thought Harris was going to be my savior here. Playing with Gasol could have been a good/similar pairing as is currently with Jokic.

Marc Gasol - 22,642,350
Klay Thompson - 17,826,150

I don't have the luxury or confidence to spend a whole lot this round. Could really use someone who creates for themselves or others (or both). Shooting shouldn't be an issue at this point, especially of the spot-up variety. Not overly worried about defense, but this seems like the round to set oneself up for less difficult decisions later in terms of positional needs.

Marc and Klay won't be enough of a 1-2 punch to get it done against the best teams in this, and they aren't the most athletic players (see: white). No one likes this guy, but hopefully the book isn't totally shut and that he can play a little smarter with the better team around him this year.

With the 46th pick in the 2017/18 NBA salary cap draft I select

Here and pondering... im sure lfc is around so i'll have a pick in shortly

for the most part i think ppl are drafting pretty well, harris and wiggins had to be among the next few to go

i can't even imagine the argument for iguodala over harris, except that "i really needed a guy to guard the other team's best wing" which is not true of assani's team. 11m more, WAY worse on offense, and likely to play 50% less minutes. woof.

Maybe I follow too many Curry Stans on twitter, but he's probably an average defender and certainly not in IT2 tier. So I highly doubt going from 88/94th DRPM Booker to 85th DRPM Harris would move the needle.

I think if my pick was a mistake it's because he's just too young (and Harris as well) for a 1 year draft and I think history's shown you need to take some Ls before you can hold your own in the playoffs. This had me thinking about Pat Bev and Avery Brad in my spot, but they're pretty small, and probably overrated as casual fan falls in love with their ability to pressure the ball. Was kind of appropriate that Bradley said Kyrie was the hardest guy for him to guard because its spidermanseesspiderman.jpg

Also, I think part of the reason why the Ws blew a 3-1 lead and lost the 2016 finals is they didn't have a 2nd guy who could get his own shot off the dribble. I think they didn't have a fg in last 3 or 5 mins? This is something Booker is good at (that RPM doesn't value if you don't do it efficiently). Boston was throwing 3 guys at him at the end of his 70 point game and he found a way to make it work, and I have a soft spot for anyone who makes Jae Crowder sallllllllllty.

Wiggins prob could've gone sooner

Ha my PM to let him know he was up was something along the lines of "I didn't pick Gary Harris so you're good"

Yep. I'm here and have my pick ready unless you snipe which I don't think you will.

Nah, Wiggins stinks and is a horrendous defender

Round 3 - Pick 3 (47 overall)

Position Rank last season:
#1 in VORP
#2 in WS/48
#3 in BPM
#3 in PER

40.4% on 7.2 3pa/g

Per 36 mins: 23.9pts/3.6ast/3.2rebs

I like it