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09-26-2007 , 01:53 AM
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I was wrong about the UF/LSU gametime, its at 8pm est on cbs and the early game will be ut/uga. Thats not good for UF. I just want UF to roll up the Aubs this weekend anyways. I just have this sick feeling that UF wont cover the 18 pts though. I still think they win and I think Ole Miss was definitely a hangover game. Hopefully UF remember what Aub did to them last year.
HELL YEAH

I was afraid it would be afternoon and Baton Rouge wouldn't be in its best form

that game deserves the best
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09-26-2007 , 02:34 AM
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09-26-2007 , 03:36 AM
After looking at schedules today, it occurred to me that the Florida-Kentucky tilt (in Lexington) on October 20 is the de facto East championship game. If Kentucky wins, UK and UF both lose to LSU, and UK takes 2 of 3 from UT/UGA/USC, UK is your East champ. If Florida splits with SC/UGA, UK could potentially even win the East at 5-3 if they can upset UF.

Stranger things have happened.
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09-26-2007 , 08:56 AM
Yeah, I'm really really glad the UF game in Baton Rouge starts late. Louisiana Saturday Night baby!! It really is much harder to beat us after dark. Must be all those South Louisiana voodoo spirits or something. I went to the game where we played Oregon State a few years ago, the one where that poor kid missed 3 extra points. He was, as I remember, an otherwise good kicker. Freaky. We played like absolute [censored] that night and still won. It was genuinely bizarre.

We have some evil spooky forces going on the Bayou at night. Ghosts, ghouls, invisible zombies, or something. I think it's still part of a soul-selling deal involving Huey Long in the 1930s.
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09-26-2007 , 09:08 AM
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Has lost at least 2 of the last 3 against Auburn

[x]Bama
[x]Florida
[x]LSU
[x]Tennessee
[x]Georgia
[x]Every other team in the SEC

(figured I would get that out now before Saturday.)
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09-26-2007 , 09:15 AM
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Has lost at least 2 of the last 3 against Auburn

[x]Bama
[x]Florida
[x]LSU
[x]Tennessee
[x]Georgia
[x]Every other team in the SEC

(figured I would get that out now before Saturday.)
I've always hated Auburn, but that was a very nice comeback.
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09-26-2007 , 10:10 AM
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Has lost at least 2 of the last 3 against Auburn

[x]Bama
[x]Florida
[x]LSU
[x]Tennessee
[x]Georgia
[x]Every other team in the SEC

(figured I would get that out now before Saturday.)
Keep livin in the past, dude.
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09-26-2007 , 10:46 AM
Florida is 1-2 since 2001, but we won in 2000, 1999, 1998.
So 4-2 since then & about to be 5-2

11-4 since 1990.

Since 1946 it's all square.

Auburn has the all time record at 42-38-2.
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09-26-2007 , 03:42 PM
that's a competitive rivalry

ty for the info
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09-26-2007 , 07:25 PM
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After looking at schedules today, it occurred to me that the Florida-Kentucky tilt (in Lexington) on October 20 is the de facto East championship game. If Kentucky wins, UK and UF both lose to LSU, and UK takes 2 of 3 from UT/UGA/USC, UK is your East champ. If Florida splits with SC/UGA, UK could potentially even win the East at 5-3 if they can upset UF.

Stranger things have happened.
UGA is still in the hunt.

UK is not going to take 2 of 3 from UT/USC/UGA.

5-3 is not going to cut it.
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09-26-2007 , 07:29 PM
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UK is not going to take 2 of 3 from UT/USC/UGA.
Umm... yeah. They just might do that.
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09-26-2007 , 07:30 PM
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Hopefully you guys know me as an LSU alum, but NOT a homer.

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Of course, LSU is probably the best D we see all year, although they've shown a bit of susceptibility to the pass.
They have? I have not seen it. And I've been watching carefully. Jonathan Zenon and Chevis Jackson are legit lock down corners, and probably the best duo in the country. Craig Steltz is clearly in the category of "bad ass white boy." Taylor is the closest thing the defense had to a weak link, which likely makes him the strongest weak link in college football.
Ok I dont think LSU's secondary is suspect or bad or anything like that, but they are a bit untested IMO. Look at the teams theyve played: MSU and VT have absolutely terrible QBs and USC have Mitchell who is slighty better than absolutely terrible (none of these teams have great playmaker receivers either). Lets face it, you cant run the ball on LSU, its just not gonna happen, theyre too nasty up front. A team like Florida might be able to come in and light up the LSU secondary with playmakers like Harvin and Caldwell with Tebow throwing it. And lets face it the LSU/UF game is gonna be the 3:30pm CBS game (maybe will start @ 5pm with this new time). So no crazy night atmosphere in tiger stadium.

Basically living in Houston and dealing with so many homer insane LSU fans has made me want your team to lose so I could be biased. But a lot of people I know think LSU has some manifest destiny where they cannot lose and I disagree. This stuff doesnt really apply to you but I dont deal with you irl.
How about go look at Blake Mitchell's stats versus those of John Parker Ragarm. Bama will put up less passing yardage against LSU than SC did.
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09-26-2007 , 07:31 PM
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UK is not going to take 2 of 3 from UT/USC/UGA.
Umm... yeah. They just might do that.
If you mean "might" in the "there is a 20% chance that they do so" sense of the word, then sure,whatever.
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09-26-2007 , 07:35 PM
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UK is not going to take 2 of 3 from UT/USC/UGA.
Umm... yeah. They just might do that.
If you mean "might" in the "there is a 20% chance that they do so" sense of the word, then sure,whatever.
I think it's higher than 20%. Lower than 60%. My point was you are underestimating their chances IMO.
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09-26-2007 , 08:03 PM
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Hopefully you guys know me as an LSU alum, but NOT a homer.

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Of course, LSU is probably the best D we see all year, although they've shown a bit of susceptibility to the pass.
They have? I have not seen it. And I've been watching carefully. Jonathan Zenon and Chevis Jackson are legit lock down corners, and probably the best duo in the country. Craig Steltz is clearly in the category of "bad ass white boy." Taylor is the closest thing the defense had to a weak link, which likely makes him the strongest weak link in college football.
Ok I dont think LSU's secondary is suspect or bad or anything like that, but they are a bit untested IMO. Look at the teams theyve played: MSU and VT have absolutely terrible QBs and USC have Mitchell who is slighty better than absolutely terrible (none of these teams have great playmaker receivers either). Lets face it, you cant run the ball on LSU, its just not gonna happen, theyre too nasty up front. A team like Florida might be able to come in and light up the LSU secondary with playmakers like Harvin and Caldwell with Tebow throwing it. And lets face it the LSU/UF game is gonna be the 3:30pm CBS game (maybe will start @ 5pm with this new time). So no crazy night atmosphere in tiger stadium.

Basically living in Houston and dealing with so many homer insane LSU fans has made me want your team to lose so I could be biased. But a lot of people I know think LSU has some manifest destiny where they cannot lose and I disagree. This stuff doesnt really apply to you but I dont deal with you irl.
How about go look at Blake Mitchell's stats versus those of John Parker Ragarm. Bama will put up less passing yardage against LSU than SC did.
Um, BM threw for 70 yds against LSU. I'm guaranteeing that JPW throws for more. JPW had one of, if not the, worst games of his career against UGA. Even if he played like that for every game he'd still be better than BM.

Now, that being said, he has underachieved about this year, I thought he'd of played better than he has. I'm hoping he'll silence the haters (some being Bama fans) this weekend with a big game we'll see. But dont try and tell me that BM>JPW.
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09-26-2007 , 08:27 PM
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Hopefully you guys know me as an LSU alum, but NOT a homer.

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Of course, LSU is probably the best D we see all year, although they've shown a bit of susceptibility to the pass.
They have? I have not seen it. And I've been watching carefully. Jonathan Zenon and Chevis Jackson are legit lock down corners, and probably the best duo in the country. Craig Steltz is clearly in the category of "bad ass white boy." Taylor is the closest thing the defense had to a weak link, which likely makes him the strongest weak link in college football.
Ok I dont think LSU's secondary is suspect or bad or anything like that, but they are a bit untested IMO. Look at the teams theyve played: MSU and VT have absolutely terrible QBs and USC have Mitchell who is slighty better than absolutely terrible (none of these teams have great playmaker receivers either). Lets face it, you cant run the ball on LSU, its just not gonna happen, theyre too nasty up front. A team like Florida might be able to come in and light up the LSU secondary with playmakers like Harvin and Caldwell with Tebow throwing it. And lets face it the LSU/UF game is gonna be the 3:30pm CBS game (maybe will start @ 5pm with this new time). So no crazy night atmosphere in tiger stadium.

Basically living in Houston and dealing with so many homer insane LSU fans has made me want your team to lose so I could be biased. But a lot of people I know think LSU has some manifest destiny where they cannot lose and I disagree. This stuff doesnt really apply to you but I dont deal with you irl.
How about go look at Blake Mitchell's stats versus those of John Parker Ragarm. Bama will put up less passing yardage against LSU than SC did.
Um, BM threw for 70 yds against LSU. I'm guaranteeing that JPW throws for more. JPW had one of, if not the, worst games of his career against UGA. Even if he played like that for every game he'd still be better than BM.

Now, that being said, he has underachieved about this year, I thought he'd of played better than he has. I'm hoping he'll silence the haters (some being Bama fans) this weekend with a big game we'll see. But dont try and tell me that BM>JPW.
Blake Mitchell

2006

135/202 1789 Yds 66.8% 8.86 YPA 10 TDs 6 INTs 151.62 RAT

2007

41/68 391 Yds 60.3% 5.75 YPA 3 TDs 4 INTs 111.39 RAT

John Parker Bubba Joey Joe Joe Wilson

2006

216/379 2707 Yds 57.0% 7.14 YPA 17 TDS 10 INTS 126.51 RAT

2007

72/133 851 Yds 54.1% 6.40 YPA 4 TDs 3 INTs 113.29 RAT

Yeah dude, sooooooo obvious that JPW >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>> > BM. You're not looking at this through rose colored glasses at all.
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09-26-2007 , 08:33 PM
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Um, BM threw for 70 yds against LSU. I'm guaranteeing that JPW throws for more.
Are you really this dumb? Spurrier yanked Mitchell and put in Smelley. Way to go out on a huge limb by predicting that JPW will throw for more than 70 yards. If only there were a common opponent between SC and Bama this year....

Mitchell vs. UGA

20/31 174 5.6 0 0

Wilson vs. UGA

17/35 185 5.3 0 0

OMG once again Wilson >>>>>>>>>>>&gt ; Mitchell obv.
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09-26-2007 , 08:56 PM
lol are you autistic or something man? Throw all the stats out that you want, do you actually watch games or just check the box score afterwards? Watch the 2 guys play and tell me that Mitchell is better. How many comebacks has BM orchestrated this year? Steve Spurrier would bust a nut if he could swap JP for BM right now.

I will admit that I misread your first post though, i thought it was comparing JPW and BM. I still think that Bama passes for more than SC against LSU and JP will have more than 70 yds in the first half alone. And you seem to forget that BM got yanked because he was sucking balls.

I definitely take Brandon Cox over Mitchell. In fact the only person I might not take over Mitchell is whoever MSU has. He's one of the worst QBs in the SEC dude. And while JP isnt a superstar, hes still hands down a better QB than BM. The UGA game was one of his worst ever, he had a terrible game missing receivers and he still had the stats of your boy + 1 rushing TD.
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09-26-2007 , 09:01 PM
Excuse me, he actually rushed for 2 TDs against UGA.
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09-26-2007 , 09:05 PM
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lol are you autistic or something man? Throw all the stats out that you want, do you actually watch games or just check the box score afterwards? Watch the 2 guys play and tell me that Mitchell is better. How many comebacks has BM orchestrated this year? Steve Spurrier would bust a nut if he could swap JP for BM right now.

I will admit that I misread your first post though, i thought it was comparing JPW and BM. I still think that Bama passes for more than SC against LSU and JP will have more than 70 yds in the first half alone. And you seem to forget that BM got yanked because he was sucking balls.

I definitely take Brandon Cox over Mitchell. In fact the only person I might not take over Mitchell is whoever MSU has. He's one of the worst QBs in the SEC dude. And while JP isnt a superstar, hes still hands down a better QB than BM. The UGA game was one of his worst ever, he had a terrible game missing receivers and he still had the stats of your boy + 1 rushing TD.
You're right, why compare actual on the field production when we can compare CLUTCH.
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09-26-2007 , 09:06 PM
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I definitely take Brandon Cox over Mitchell. In fact the only person I might not take over Mitchell is whoever MSU has. He's one of the worst QBs in the SEC dude. And while JP isnt a superstar, hes still hands down a better QB than BM. The UGA game was one of his worst ever, he had a terrible game missing receivers and he still had the stats of your boy + 1 rushing TD.
Most obvious troll ever, but you got me to respond so good for you.
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09-26-2007 , 09:13 PM
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lol are you autistic or something man? Throw all the stats out that you want, do you actually watch games or just check the box score afterwards? Watch the 2 guys play and tell me that Mitchell is better. How many comebacks has BM orchestrated this year? Steve Spurrier would bust a nut if he could swap JP for BM right now.

I will admit that I misread your first post though, i thought it was comparing JPW and BM. I still think that Bama passes for more than SC against LSU and JP will have more than 70 yds in the first half alone. And you seem to forget that BM got yanked because he was sucking balls.

I definitely take Brandon Cox over Mitchell. In fact the only person I might not take over Mitchell is whoever MSU has. He's one of the worst QBs in the SEC dude. And while JP isnt a superstar, hes still hands down a better QB than BM. The UGA game was one of his worst ever, he had a terrible game missing receivers and he still had the stats of your boy + 1 rushing TD.
You're right, why compare actual on the field production when we can compare CLUTCH.
lol xpert cop out sir. You wanna compare the games against the same opponents which was JPs worst game this year and he still had a better night than BM. Its all good man, continue not watching SEC games and make judgements solely based on stats.

BM has a whole year of experience more than JP too and JP still > than BM. You know why we havent seen the fun and gun @ SC yet right. Just in case you dont know, its because BM is incapable of making plays, he cannot win a ball game for you either. SC just runs the ball and plays good D, wonder why? Probably because Blake is just that awesome.
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09-26-2007 , 09:23 PM
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lol are you autistic or something man? Throw all the stats out that you want, do you actually watch games or just check the box score afterwards? Watch the 2 guys play and tell me that Mitchell is better. How many comebacks has BM orchestrated this year? Steve Spurrier would bust a nut if he could swap JP for BM right now.

I will admit that I misread your first post though, i thought it was comparing JPW and BM. I still think that Bama passes for more than SC against LSU and JP will have more than 70 yds in the first half alone. And you seem to forget that BM got yanked because he was sucking balls.

I definitely take Brandon Cox over Mitchell. In fact the only person I might not take over Mitchell is whoever MSU has. He's one of the worst QBs in the SEC dude. And while JP isnt a superstar, hes still hands down a better QB than BM. The UGA game was one of his worst ever, he had a terrible game missing receivers and he still had the stats of your boy + 1 rushing TD.
You're right, why compare actual on the field production when we can compare CLUTCH.
lol xpert cop out sir. You wanna compare the games against the same opponents which was JPs worst game this year and he still had a better night than BM. Its all good man, continue not watching SEC games and make judgements solely based on stats.

BM has a whole year of experience more than JP too and JP still > than BM. You know why we havent seen the fun and gun @ SC yet right. Just in case you dont know, its because BM is incapable of making plays, he cannot win a ball game for you either. SC just runs the ball and plays good D, wonder why? Probably because Blake is just that awesome.
No, copping out is resorting to ridiculous hand waving arguments when the stats demonstrate that they are the same qb in terms of production. But hey, JPW just wins games, I guess. Except against UGA.
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09-26-2007 , 09:39 PM
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After looking at schedules today, it occurred to me that the Florida-Kentucky tilt (in Lexington) on October 20 is the de facto East championship game. If Kentucky wins, UK and UF both lose to LSU, and UK takes 2 of 3 from UT/UGA/USC, UK is your East champ. If Florida splits with SC/UGA, UK could potentially even win the East at 5-3 if they can upset UF.

Stranger things have happened.
UGA is still in the hunt.

UK is not going to take 2 of 3 from UT/USC/UGA.

5-3 is not going to cut it.
None of those teams are very good. UK will be favored against Tennessee. SC will be a coin flip. UGA is the most likely loss, but Kentucky beat them last year and UGA has lost 5 straight against the East while Kentucky has won 9 of 10 overall.

I think they'll beat Tennessee and most likely split with SC/UGA. Beating all three is not out of the question. Kentucky is a good, deep, balanced, well-coached team that has tons of senior leadership and is playing with a lot of confidence. Tennessee has Ainge, a stationary QB UK matches up well with and should have beaten last year in Knoxville, and the rest of the team is basically air. South Carolina is a bit of a mess right now between QB controversy and losing Brinkley, and for UGA, losing 5 in a row to the East is a far cry from a conference title. None of the three has any skill players that would see the field for Kentucky (well, McKinley could maybe be a 2nd-3rd WR, but you get the point).

I would consider all 3 likely wins if SC/UGA weren't on the road.
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09-26-2007 , 09:49 PM
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After looking at schedules today, it occurred to me that the Florida-Kentucky tilt (in Lexington) on October 20 is the de facto East championship game. If Kentucky wins, UK and UF both lose to LSU, and UK takes 2 of 3 from UT/UGA/USC, UK is your East champ. If Florida splits with SC/UGA, UK could potentially even win the East at 5-3 if they can upset UF.

Stranger things have happened.
UGA is still in the hunt.

UK is not going to take 2 of 3 from UT/USC/UGA.

5-3 is not going to cut it.
None of those teams are very good. UK will be favored against Tennessee. SC will be a coin flip. UGA is the most likely loss, but Kentucky beat them last year and UGA has lost 5 straight against the East while Kentucky has won 9 of 10 overall.

I think they'll beat Tennessee and most likely split with SC/UGA. Beating all three is not out of the question. Kentucky is a good, deep, balanced, well-coached team that has tons of senior leadership and is playing with a lot of confidence. Tennessee has Ainge, a stationary QB UK matches up well with and should have beaten last year in Knoxville, and the rest of the team is basically air. South Carolina is a bit of a mess right now between QB controversy and losing Brinkley, and for UGA, losing 5 in a row to the East is a far cry from a conference title. None of the three has any skill players that would see the field for Kentucky (well, McKinley could maybe be a 2nd-3rd WR, but you get the point).

I would consider all 3 likely wins if SC/UGA weren't on the road.
Let's say each game is a coin flip, approximately (with SC a PK and UK -4 against UT and +4 against UGA).

UK's odds of winning 2 of 3 or better in that scenario are ~50%, which is a lot more than 20%. No reasonable person could possibly consider them below 40% (corresponding to, say, UGA -7, SC -4, and UT PK, and I think all three spreads are quite likely to be closer to UK).

It's still probably moot with regard to the East title if they can't upset Florida, who will probably be favored by 7-10, in Lexington.
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