I can totally see Miles leaving for Michigan.

1. Michigan is where his heart is

2. Deservedly or undeservedly, LSU fans really don't seem to like him all that much, despite winning a ton of games.

This is a joke/level, right?

I mean one of the top teams in the conference (2nd/3rd best) lost 44-6 to a 0-2 Utah team.

If Miles were to leave for Michigan (which I think will happen) who immediately would be some choices to be the head coach at LSU?

MT2R,

Nice post, but I think you are engaging in a bit of handwaving in order to explain away the turnovers. Since you seem to know where to go for stats, what was Florida and LSU's respective turnover margins?

Not trying to bust your balls, I thought it was a good post. Just curious about the turnover margins.

I hope you are re-leveling here.

EDIT: rereading your post. It's obvious you are. Sorry.

Regarding your other (serious) post: as an LSU guy (fan/alum), I like Miles, but won't begrudge him for leaving for what has to be his dream job. I also take a very radical position on Miles: I think he is actually a decent, pretty good (not great) coach (*gasp*). That said, I think Steve Sarkisian or Norm Chow would be better, and as mentioned someone earlier (in this thread or another), the LSU job is one of, and maybe THE best job in football (college or pro), so we would likely get our pick of the litter.

I think it's very likely that LSU was better than Florida last year, despite the final score.

Just like everyone pretty much knows Florida was way better than Auburn last year, despite the final score.

But at the end of the season, what matters is the win/loss for that year

turnovers were +3 for Florida

the difference was a fluke fumbled snap on a goalline possession and then some picks in desperation time for LSU

turnovers pretty much follow a random walk
the only thing that can predict turnovers in all my searching are tackles for loss and 3rd an long situations

nice to know your posting remains consistent from SSNL to sporting events


as to your point,
right now, I don't believe anyone puts UCLA in the top 4 of teams in the PAC10
USC
Cal
Oregon
ASU
must be considered higher

USC has a blowout win @ Nebraska
Cal dominated Tenn at home---the same game that Florida has built its reputation this year on
Oregon demolished Michigan on the road

pretty damn good to me


perhaps, if the vag of a conference known as the SEC went out on the road and played some teams, they could claim some supremacy.

All I know, is everyone pointed to TENN's dominance of Cal last year as the reason for SEC supremacy. Seems the backwoods rednecks forgot about that game pretty quick this year.

For the most part, SEC fans pay no attention to the rest of the country and just assume they are the best conference....lollerskates.



For reference, over the past 10, 15, and 20 years...the big11ten has had the highest out of conference win pct. Yet, no one claims they are the best conference. Why? Scheduling. It all comes down to scheduling.

If you want to talk about SEC dominance last year, why look any further than BCS games?

Exactly. Everyone knows the Big Ten out-of-conference wins are against the MAC, and the Citadel (yeah, Wisconsin is a real top ten team, let me tell you) and Appalachian State (oops).

ahhhh, clever of you to use BCS only

what about Penn State beating Tennessee down in the south?
what about Wisconsin beating Arkansas down in the south?


Believe me, I think the Big11Ten has sucked of late and pointed it out over and over and over last year. But, the SEC isn't noticeably better.

these conference arguments are pretty stupid in general as shown by last year's best conference not having a noticeable difference over the crappy Big11Ten at season's end.


Also, over time, the Big11Ten's out of conference scheduling has been tougher than the SEC. Yet, the Big11Ten still has a higher win pct.

Conference arguments are fairly dumb, and are impossible to judge accurately.

You also cannot use one game (ie. BCS title game) to compare the two conferences. Nor should you use just the two wins that PSU/Wisc had last year. I think taking a macro view of the conference as a whole (ie. total bowl games w-l, opponents, etc).

Big Ten beats SEC in bowl games head to head 8-6 IIRC the past 5 years.

However, I do believe that the SEC was stronger than the Big Ten last year. Yes, you can look at the two head to head matches (ie. Wisc/PSU). But I think you should also note the middle-lower tier teams as UK beating a decent Clemson or UGA upsetting VT.

I think from top-bottom, the SEC was stronger than the Big Ten last year.

It's pretty apparent that the fluke play was a game changer but it's still a mistake. Critical mistakes still count against a team's skill, perhaps more so. They didn't deserve to win the game. Florida was the best team on that day at least. Just because they were the best team going in & leaving doesn't mean they were the best team during that game. It seems to me that these other factors besides the statistical analysis count a ton going in to such a game. You can't assume that LSU beats UF on a neutral field today.
Too many other factors involved.

2nd/3rd according to whom? Pre-season mags/"experts"

Same mags ranked Auburn 2nd in the West, ranked USF & Cincy as a "lock" for 4th & 5th in the BE, and had Oregon in the bottom half of the Pac-10.

I believe Utah lost 20-7 in week 1 to OSU, who then proceeded to lose by 30+ to Cincy? Concensus picks for divisional rankings are always a cluster****

I really wish that I lived close to Tuscaloosa for games like tomorrows. People have questioned the Bama D, specifically the run D and I agree that its the weakest aspect of our entire team. However, remember that Bama faced arguably the best rushing attack in the nation and UGA simply doesnt have those types of weapons. Apparently this RS freshman Moreno is supposedly a stud though.

Im also not completely sold on Stafford, the guy is just too inconsistent IMO. If he throws at Castilles man he will get hurt. Im an unashamed homer, but Im expecting Bama to win tomorrow, hopefully I wont have to eat my words.

Bama 17 UGA 14
UF 38 Ole Miss 17
LSU 31 USCe 10
Ark 38 KY 28

I posted in the CFW4 thread but FSU could be without 2 players next week vs Alabama, barry. Geno Hayes is their best LBer.

An altercation with police took place at a bar on College Ave. in Tallahassee, where Geno Hayes and Joe Surratt were arrested.
Police had to use a taser on Hayes in order to subdue him. Surratt attempted to intervene, and was told to remove himself from the situation. He would not and continued the altercation with TPD.

I'll be surprised if it's this close.

EDIT: This is a post I made on the wk 4 CFB thread that is relevant here as well:
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It looks like Matt Flynn will start for LSU today against South Carolina. He sprained his ankle against VT a couple of weeks ago and missed last week's game against MTSU.

I don't think we lose much with sophomore Ryan Perrilloux at QB -- he played pretty well last week. Perrilloux (VERY highly recruited prospect) is just as good overall, but adds variance, whereas Flynn is going to be more consistent (though when Perrilloux and Flynn are both at their best, Perrilloux is better). All in all, starting Flynn is better, given that the Tigers are more talented.

EDIT: Early Doucet will miss today's game though. He could be back next week against Tulane.

Interesting. Idk much about FSU honestly, besides from watching the Clemson game. I know their O is terrible, specifically QB play. Theyre thinking of starting this week right?

I think UF wins pretty big. I mean Ole Miss could be the worst team in the SEC. You think LSU beats USC handily? I dont think they win, but in the day time it will be within 2 TDs IMO (thats close for LSU games lol).

This is the first road/trap game for most of the players on the UF team. If they start fast with more special teams plays, big plays, etc then UF could win by 50, but it's a bit more likely Ole Miss hangs around at first & then UF cruises. Although if we stop the run like we did vs UT(vs a good OL/RBs), then it won't be close. I'm just playing it close to the vest

As for LSU/USCe, I think LSU is capable of too many game changing turnovers/perhaps a TD return off of a turnover or special teams & it will end up being lopsided. If USCe can somehow avoid turnovers then it will be a very close game.
You know I love Spurrier but Blake Mitchell has to play the game of his life.

As for FSU, they're D is very good but Bama will be able to run the ball more effectively & take pressure off of JPW(maybe no need to) with Hayes out. It's nothing solid, he may not be suspended for a while or never knowing Bobby Bowden. FSU has a good secondary so the running game will be the key in that game. If Bama runs/controls the clock it will be ugly because FSU may not score.

Also, Urban Meyer is 0-7 on the road covering the spread. It's a different offense now but something to think about.

lol, pretty nice by Corso there, his best intro to his pick ever.

This must be a level.

I hope the Florida/Ole Miss game is only 38-17. Tim Tebow is going to have a field day with our secondary. Hopefully he spends the weekend curing cancer or finding Bin Laden or something...

I personally guarantee that Vanderbilt doesn't lose today

I think you could say this next week as well.

(For the rest of you: they have a bye this week and next week is E. Michigan.)

EDIT: looking at their schedule, a bowl is not out of the question. If they only weren't in the SEC...