bosh lebron cp3 hgh melo were all 21 or 22 years old in 2006. i dont remember watching and im assuming they still shouldve won, but they could have conceivably still been in college. pretty huge factor...youngest nba player on dream team was pippen

2012 has BROW on the team, they win and it's not close.

haha, but you said it bro - i DO present evidence. clear-cut, empirical evidence. kobe and his statement is just conjecture and heresay.

saying the 2012 team, which is also missing a lot of the best players (for example, eric gordon should be on there instead of lol harden) would win presents no evidence. at least i present some pretty good evidence. they lost many times from 2002 to 2006, and almost lost in 2008. that's pretty good evidence, and not a small sample size.

every team misses the best players. the dream team missed isiah, shaq, dominique, and shawn kemp, to name a few.

brad daughtery (in his prime, 23.0 PER), kevin johnson, tim hardaway, mitch richmond, reggie miller, derrick coleman (far more skilled than any pf on this year's roster - check youtube if you don't remember), dennis rodman, dikembe mutombo were other ommissions to name a few more.

Those guys were not that great in 1992.

LOL at your DC being more skilled than let's say something like Kevin Love. Especially when DC could give 2 ****s about basketball most of the time. Stop using stupid youtube evidence--its horrible.

Your evidence, literally blows. Empirical? How. I never said the 2012 team would kill the 1992 team. I said, the current team is missing some of its best players. If they did have their best players--2012 top team vs 1992 top team would be pretty close.

Isiah as we've repeatedly stated on this board. Sucks. Shaq should have made it over Laettner but not that much of a loss at the time. Nique was hurt. Kemp I guess but he isn't a HOFer like everyone else on the team. It really didn't matter anyways b/c the rest of the world sucked in 1992.

When did they almost lose in 2008? They won by 11 in the finals and 20 in the semi finals.

they only won because of kobe hero ball (check youtube if you dont remember)

let's not get into the injuries, because now blake is hurt. it goes both ways is all i'm saying.

and shawn kemp was way better than blake currently is - he dominated the 1996 bulls and dennis rodman - hollinger had his finals performance as one of the best finals performances of all time. his article was on espn's website a while back.

and dominique was better then, than everyone on the 2012 roster except lebron and durant. kobe's old now.

LOL at isiah sucking. his athleticism is really underrated.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChA45LsZm7I

i mean seriously - wade, lebron, hgh, bosh, and chris paul got beat by puerto rico, greece and almost lost again to spain - they were dominated by CARLOS ARROYO - and you are seriously trying to make an argument for them beating the dream team?

lawyers dream of being able to take on cases this easy.

lol

Lol lawyers.

Moral of the story: lol lebron

I brought up the Drexler/Kobe thing in another thread and someone countered with:

Drexler was already going bald, which is a sure sign that he wasn't very athletic. He averaged 25 and close to 7 rebounds and assists per game in 92, but he was playing against bums.

Really?

You can't compare eras. MJ wouldn't crack the starting lineup of a top 5 NBA team now a days. The athleticism is so much greater now.

Ding, ding. None.

name one guy in the league that can do this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqXUDnXcTok

don't say lebron, because he is too scared to get upset in the dunk contest; the same psychology that caused him to shrink against dallas with all the chips on the line.

and don't make the mistake of thinking the 1992 drexler wasn't better than the 2012 iverson, er, i mean kobe because:

drexler in 92' (23.6 PER on less shots per game, 24.9 ppg, 6.7 assists, 6.5 rebs, 56% ts, 1.8 sts, 0.8 blocks)

is better than what kobe had this past year (21.9 PER on more shots per game which overstates PER, 27.9ppg, 4.6 assists, 5.4 rebs, 52.7 ts%, 1.3 steals, 0.3 blocks).

How unathletic was Karl Malone exactly same for David Robinson?

<5% body fat...super unathletic

Look at those twig-arms, jebus he'll get tossed aside like it ain't no thang.

Not really interested in the '12 vs '92 debate since it isn't really apples to apples but comparing a guys PER from '92 to '12 is a bit misleading.

Defense is way way better now in the NBA than in 1992. Both from a Xs and Os standpoint and a individual defender/athleticism standpoint

Even MJ, sure he is the best ever consensus but c'mon, most of the guys he faced couldn't play in todays NBA. Those shooter specialist 6'3 SG types don't make NBA teams now. That type of player is just extinct.

lebron, and he would actually take off from behind the line

we aren't discussing who could play in which era.

we are discussing cold, hard, empirical evidence.

lebron james, carmelo, chris paul, HGH, chris bosh, and dwayne wade lost to Puerto Rico and Greece, and were dominated by CARLOS ARROYO, to the point to where carlos was able to swag and do this to the entire team USA:



carlos arroyo did this to them. greece did too, and spain almost did it as well in 2008 but were saved by kobe hero ball.

all a lawyer would do is point to the vid-e-o tape and say, "judge, let's go to the tape." of course the cops that beat up rodney king on tape for 15 minutes got off, so you never know, but otherwise, it's as clear cut case as you can get.

they all stayed the same or got worse since 2006 obv

wade is worse for SURE. like, way worse. so is chris paul. probably HGH too, at least he's hurt right now.

and kobe is worse from 2008. melo is the same as ever.

92 team is probably a -250 favorite if the 12 team is fully healthy. If Lebron is injured, it's about -140.

Whatever side trainwreck is on, I'm on the opposite. I just skimmed straight through all those blocks of text.

but i know you saw c-lo swagging on lbj, melo, cp3, wade, hgh, and bosh and the rest of the 2006 team. hard to miss.

so you knew what time it was.

lol. you should rewatch that game. theres a reason that hero ball was required.

as usual, no actual arguments against mine, just snide comments that have no point.

hard to argue against actual historical events - in this case carlos arroyo dominating lbj, wade, melo, hgh, bosh and cp3.

i'm sure magic and jordan would get owned though