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08-12-2012 , 01:27 PM

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2012 team took way more threes which is significant when the %s are similar

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08-12-2012 , 01:47 PM

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less facts more eye test

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08-12-2012 , 02:02 PM

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The 1992 three point line was shorter than the one today

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2012 team took way more threes which is significant when the %s are similar

plus adjusting for competition

This entire argument is dumb, but the majority of the Dream Team supporters are making arguments that wouldn't hold up at a junior high lunch table.

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08-12-2012 , 02:28 PM

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event: usa wins gold against teams with actual pro basketball players
analysis: proof that they would lose

discussion: the usa will shoot lights out with the short 3
event: they do
analysis: usa is running hot from 3

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08-12-2012 , 02:43 PM

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plus adjusting for competition

This entire argument is dumb, but the majority of the Dream Team supporters are making arguments that wouldn't hold up at a junior high lunch table.

Cliffs: You're arguing this dumb argument dumbly.

What can we do though, we just aren't as good at the YouTube analytics.

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08-12-2012 , 02:46 PM

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significantly shorter too iirc, almost 20 inches. lol mattr

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08-12-2012 , 02:47 PM

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significantly shorter too iirc, almost 20 inches. lol mattr

And it was only shorter for the US team. The other team had to shoot from behind center. That's why the closest game the Dream Team had in the '92 Olympics was a 32 point win.

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08-12-2012 , 02:48 PM

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Americans should make a statue of Spains coach and thank him. The biggest ******. He just sucks so hard. How can somebody make so many mistakes on such high level is beyond me. Spain should get ridd of him ASAP. But it will never happen. Too bad will never see the full potenial of class generation from Spain.

Also. 1992>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2010 WC team>>>>>>>>2012 Olympic team IMO

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08-12-2012 , 02:55 PM

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Listen to the Slovenian guy.

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08-12-2012 , 02:56 PM

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If usa 2012 dream team loses 1 game , does that automatically ends this discussion?

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Liths had more rebounds(42:37) and more assists(21 : 13 LOL) , but they lost because of turnovers (23 ouch).If Americans play like this against Spain/Argentina or Russia they're gonna lose.

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Lol at you. Liths are like 5-8 Nt in Europe and also behind Argentina and Brazil. And they managed to get so close to USA. If USA keeps on sucking like they did today(I highly doubt it that they will tho) they will lose against better NT's. Now please go throw up.....

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Americans should make a statue of Spains coach and thank him. The biggest ******. He just sucks so hard.

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08-12-2012 , 03:03 PM

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And it was only shorter for the US team. The other team had to shoot from behind center. That's why the closest game the Dream Team had in the '92 Olympics was a 32 point win.

we have established that the shorter the three point line, the bigger the advantage for a superior outside shooting team

no one is denying that the 92 team was better than their random non-pro opponents by a bigger margin than the 12 team was compared to nba players.

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08-12-2012 , 03:07 PM

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In your opinion would the '92 Dream Team have beaten Spain or Lithuania?

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08-12-2012 , 03:10 PM

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in the vast majority of games yes, just like the 2012 team will

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08-12-2012 , 03:13 PM

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Is this the HORSE competition you're talking about? Rondo made 2 and missed one...

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I guess counting isn't your forte, since he made 3/4 in that video. But anyway, it wasn't the whole thing.

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I just watched it again and he made 2 shots out of 3. Are you adding together the shots for both Rondo and Durant or something...? Jesus Christ how dumb are you?

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Oh, I see the problem, you started with the claim of Rondo "hitting them with ease" then post a video where he makes 2 out of 3 unguarded. OMG HE MADE 2 AND MISSED ONE LOOK HOW GOOD HE IS.

Then you realized that was kind of stupid since 2 out of 3 unguarded 3's isn't exactly draining 3 pointers, so you got all mad and snarky and made a snide remark about me not counting right or something because the first shot Rondo presumably took (I guess? the video cuts in with the ball like 2 inches from the basket) goes in. It's funny how butthurt you pro-2012 droolers get when your stupid arguments are shown to be... well, stupid. Don't worry, I'm sure you will get a post right one of these days.

Also, why is Rondo a 77% 3 point shooter unguarded but a 59% shooter unguarded from the FT line? What the heck do you think this shows exactly?

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he makes 3 of 4. you guys will argue about anything.

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Holy crap! Rondo hit 3 of 4 unguarded 3's! This definitely proves that Durant is 56% from the FIBA 3 point line in-game. What were we thinking?

prob the exchange of the thread and pretty much proves that, right or wrong about DT v '12 team, matt r might be the dumbest person in the history of the world and that his opinion is less meaningful than visiting a pre-school for blind kids and polling who they think is better.

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08-12-2012 , 03:17 PM

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in the vast majority of games yes, just like the 2012 team will

But what about the enhanced speed of the game? The 2012 team only beat Lithuania and Spain by 5 and 7 points respectively. Why would you say the '92 team would win the vast majority of the time?

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I thought his most recent posts were pretty good. I noticed you left those out.

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08-12-2012 , 03:18 PM

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ah, i was involved in the exchange of the thread. life is good.

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08-12-2012 , 03:22 PM

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I'd bet on KD at 85%. I think it was that show Pros vs Joes, Brent Barry was saying that in the gym NBA sharpshooters are hitting 9/10 or something. I mean, think about it... unguarded, no pressure, just chillin. it's like us shooting free throws, only much better.

you'd think Brent Barry would hit more than 82.3% of his FTs career.

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08-12-2012 , 03:23 PM

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Spoiler:

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08-12-2012 , 03:24 PM

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that's a lovely accent you have, new jersey?

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08-12-2012 , 03:43 PM

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Americans fully deserve it and they were the best team in this tournament no doubt about it.
But I will stand by what I said. If Spain had a better coach they could have won.

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08-12-2012 , 03:51 PM

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All of the 2012 teams in the Olympics were made of NBA players?

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08-12-2012 , 03:54 PM

#1647

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Originally Posted by StewiesMinion

you'd think Brent Barry would hit more than 82.3% of his FTs career.

This.

The 9/10 is an exaggeration from everything I've ever seen. Guys leave out the times they were missing as just an off day but remember the times they hit a couple dozen in a row. It's more like 8/10 and that's warmed up, feeling good, standing in the same spot locked in, perfect conditions.

Free throws are about the same because the first shot is harder and it's game conditions. Some of them a 270 lb gorilla just smacked them across their forearm, some of them they're just sucking wind/have dead legs, some of it is pressure, etc. 8/10 3's in practice you're taking all that stuff out of the equation.

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08-12-2012 , 03:56 PM

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3 on 3 basketball coming up in Rio 2016 as an olympic discipline!

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08-12-2012 , 03:56 PM

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3pt line in RIO will be as it is in NBA.

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08-12-2012 , 03:59 PM

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All of the 2012 teams in the Olympics were made of NBA players?

Well on the Lithuanian team that the US beat by 5 points Linas Kleiza plays in the NBA...so I guess there is that.

Granted that is one less than the 1992 Lithuanian team who the Dream Team beat by 51 points...but why get caught up in details?

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