pippen's wingspan was 7-3. np there. there's a reason the bulls gave paxson/kerr/bj armstrong/ron harper significant minutes and still had a top 3 defense.

I think people ding him for the kukoc end-of-game incident (can be argued, I agree) and not being an alpha, but pippen was really, really good.

comments like this will make it tougher for me to work up animosity to argue with you.

if lbj is your pg the overall quality of your starting 5 just took a nosedive.

and I know some of you lol'd at depth, but if you don't think the DT's 2nd team would give the '12 squad 10-12 minutes of utter hell you're kidding yourselves.

Carmelo/Malone

re: WIM

Reading the thread will make it easier to work up animosity imo.

1992 ommissions (PER)

Shaq
Brad Daughtery (23.0)
Mark Price (PER 22.7)
Shawn Kemp (21.7)
Kevin Johnson (19.9)
Tim Hardaway (19.1)
Hakeem Olajuwon (23.7)
Dominique Wilkins (22.2)
Derrick Coleman (19.5)
Reggie Miller
Mitch Richmond
Isiah Thomas

1996 Team

Charles Barkley
Anfernee Hardaway
Grant Hill
Karl Malone
Reggie Miller
Hakeem Olajuwon
Shaquille O'Neal
Gary Payton
Scottie Pippen
Mitch Richmond
David Robinson
John Stockton

kobe's a fool.

1u Lebron/Kobe/Durant/Melo/Chandler
2u CP3/DWill/Iggy/Love

Don't need to run more than 9 guys w/ Love cycling as 3rd big between the 5 w/ Melo and the 4 w/ Chandler. DWill can sub as the 1 obv or play the 2 w/ Paul and Iggy can float between the 2 and 3. The Brow being the 4th big

This shift in lineup all being predicated on Magic's sick post game that Coach K can't solve

Per Wiki

grunch.

the problem with both teams is that there's no signature big man of the era. 60s Russ/Wilt, 70s/80s Walton/KAJ. 90s has Ewing and Rob (no Hakeem for some reason) and 2012 has only Dwight who isn't palying. and to be frank, I wouldn't even be happy with that nutter starting on my Rec league team.


I think 1992 takes it. MJ/Pippen in absolute prime. MJ is the GOAT #2 by such a wide margin that mentioning Kobe/Wade is basically patronizing . Magic and CP at PG is not a wash, but Jordan mitigates all of Magics potential negatives. CP is going to distribute to guys that aren't as good as Jordan.

if they are playing head to head, you can't emphasize enough the importance of every play fitting a role. just looking at the crunch time 5's


Magic/Stockton
Jordan
Scottie
Malone/Barkley
Robinson

vs.

CP
Kobe (?) / RW (?)
KD
LBJ
Tyson

1992 has a clear #1 scorer, with two of the top 3 PFs of all time, both amazing scorers (one in his absolute prime). I like Magic/Stockon distributing the ball to Jordan and Barkley a lot more than I like CP's scoring + distribution to James/Kobe/KD.

1992 would put Pippen (top 3 wing defender of all time) on Lebron, and could even stick Jordan on CP. Leaves a pretty big hole on KD but that hole is a on a person with no championships, etc.

I think 1992 beats 2012 4-2


edit: not to mention. who the f plays 2 guard for 2012 in this game. Kobe???? Russell??? are we even sure Kobe is good anymore? didn't he suck balls in his last playoff series? isn't RW capable of going 3/20???

mj, drexler, scottie, malone, david robinson > Lebron, Kobe, Durant, Melo, Chandler

stockton, magic (post game still unsolved), barkley, ewing, mullin, bird > cp3, dwill, iggy (whos that), klove

amirite?

put mj on lebron, scottie on durant, drexler on kobe and that eliminates matchup issues for the dream team among those positions.

contrastingly, 2012 team would have no answer for david robinson OR ewing at center, or malone/barkley at pf.

then magic comes off the bench playing either pg, sf, pf, or center, whatever is needed.

If you don't know who Iggy is - there's really no point to this conversation.

If you refuse to acknowledge that they could play zone (this isn't the 80's) - there's really no point to this conversation.

Have a GN tho

iggy would not make the dream team. that's why i joke.

sure they could play zone. but who would that benefit more, the team with hall of fame 7-footers camping in the lane or a team that is very light inside?

As if saying it makes it so. The '92 team does not have 3 bucket makers like Lebron, Durant or Melo.

Lebron Drives, Melo sets up 15 ft out, Durant sets up @ 3 /game. Rinse and repeat

No one but Lebron can stop Lebron's drives. Do I need to post the video of Grant Hill shaking Jordan ITT too. He's a 6'6 SG not a God

I should've quoted the original too I guess since I was agreeing with you.

once the dream team matches up with mj on lebron, drexler on kobe, and scottie on durant, they've eliminated the matchup issues.

magic comes off the bench to play pg, sf, pf, or center as needed.

2012 team does not have a bucket maker like mj. we can start right there.

putting mj on lebron, drexler on kobe, and scottie on durant, handles those matchups waaaaay better than the 2012 team can find answers for the dream team at the 4 and 5 spots.

please do.

after you do that, i'll post video of a 40 year old mj hitting two game winners over a prime shawn marion, the younger version of the marion that guarded lebron while he averaged 18ppg in the Finals against the unathletic mavs.

I'd put Scottie on LeBron, Drexler on Durant, and let MJ rest while guarding old Kobe.

Scottie is the best match up for LeBron, and LeBron is the most important player to defend really well because of his playmaking ability. Drexler is tireless, very athletic, and has good length. He'd be a good guy to start with on Durant. If he starts going off, you switch things around.

MJ really isn't a good match up for LeBron. He's much better against SG sized guys and smaller.

wtf. Such a ******ed discussion. Dream Team is better AINEC. Let's not forget how many injured players there are for this year's team.

DodgerIrish, completely missing the point.

i like the idea of mj on kobe in a way, because that would take kobe completely out of his game. kobe's team would suffer while he goes after the individual matchup. that's something that isn't talked about - the perpetual mental edge and sick meta game mj would have on kobe... being simply better, and the original to kobe's obvious copy. it would be fun to watch.

that being said, i still like mj on lebron, especially if they tried to guard mj with lebron. mj is an even more tireless worker then drexler and the strongest two-guard that ever lived. he could handle lebron. lebron's post game is not like magic's and magic was bigger and taller than lebron when mj faced magic in the 1991 finals.

dodgerirish, i'm not going to bother waste anyone's time, but mj dropped 34 in that game on pierce on 11-24 shooting.. as a 40 year old.

in that all star game, he missed that dunk, but in typical mj fashion, he got mad, and a few plays later, did this to tim duncan, once again, at 40.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eef-1WO9FCI

lol Kobe lol Lakers

in another thread there are posters that consistently call kevin garnett the greatest defender of all time.

they might be right.

but here is a 38 year old mj scoring on FOUR consecutive possessions mono-a-mono on garnett, including a blow-by dunk, from the 3:24 mark to the 4:16 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmngcHYnfN0

FOUR in a row as a 38 year old on KG, not a small sample imo, especially considering he had 35, 6, and 6 for the game.