didn't they do away with the retroactive DQs this year though?

yes, so why take a 2 stroke penalty instead of a 1 stroke penalty if the whole goal is to save strokes?

maybe, I have no idea.

Because he'd have to start from the same very difficult spot? He could easily send it right down the hill again.

well he wasnt making the moving putt any more often that the putt he hit first so a conservative lag gives him a pretty fair shot at getting as closer or closer.

well, he did lip it out (albeit at rocket pace), so...

Put me down for the "lol Phil, give him the two shots and publicly laugh at him for a month" list. By far the worst thing about him doing that was that it gave Joe Buck something to be a pompous ass about for two days.

Course was very very tough Saturday; I think there were a couple of areas where it was stupid and badly done (15 comes immediately to mind), and when the USGA actually admits they screwed it up, you know it got screwed up very badly, so anyone saying it was fine is just wrong. The problem is people hitting very good shots were getting hosed just as badly as people hitting mediocre shots, because EVERYTHING was running off the green there. There was also a hole where literally nobody hit it inside 35 feet. Where's the capacity for a very good shot to be rewarded there?

Sunday was fine to nearly perfect; a great round was out there if you hit great shots, but most of the field was in that -2 to +4 range. That seems fine to me.

fyp

lol no. a god awful analogy.

I think it is pretty simple. Phil prides himself on being "clever." There are a few things he has done over the years to reinforce that image of himself. I think he quickly thought that this would be perceived as being one of those moments. Doubt he had the time to consider that under the circumstances it would look more like angle-shooting or just not taking you lumps like the rest of the field.

If I was him, I would have Dq'd myself. Not because the rules require it, because they don't. I would have Dq'd myself because it would have been the right PR thing to do. Then the narrative changes to that of Phil feeling liked he crossed the line, and wanting to let all golfers know that upon reflection, he wished he had not done it. He then becomes Mr. Integrity..., and people then overplay how awesome he was to DQ himself when he didn't have to.

In PR situations like this the best thing to do is give people nowhere to go as far as a negative story. Ironically, Phil could have turned this negative/controversy into a win quite easily.

DQing himself......Now that would have been "clever."

yeah, easily would have been worth the $27k hit there

Jeez I thought the whole "FYP" thing was for emphasis or word choice, not disagreeing with someone's opinions. I'll remember that next time I want to use it.

I think people are more upset at Phil's attitude than the actual act. Again, if Chez Reavie does it it's an afterthought.

Basically all full-field 144 player events except Players is 1/10 on weekends.

Full-field 156 player events "frequently" go 1/10 on weekends, for various reasons. (weather, delays, etc.)

So the question begs: why does the USGA not move on to 1/10 on weekends for fairer play?

You are aware USGA no longer sends players out only #1 tee on Thur/Fri, right?

Re: Phil Saturday, majority of drops taken are not in "spirit of the rules", that is they get to place it after two drops roll one inch forward closer than original position.

Backstopping is also against "spirit of the rules" but nobody is getting DQ'd for that.

His comments afterward were obviously a shot at USGA and seemed to dare them to DQ him. I'd have no issue if he were DQ'd but the idea that pros do not take advantage of the rules is LOL bad.

Phil just ****ed up and he knew it. He made up that BS story afterwards to try to portray himself in the best possible light--and seems to have done that.

He didn't need to be put into stocks (CWIDT?), but he should have been sent packing and told "better luck next week/tournament/year."

I will be absolutely stunned if the rules aren't clarified very soon to prevent somebody else from doing that and being able to continue to play a tournament due to a precedent being set.

Phil looks worse after his explanation. His best course would have been to DQ himself as an earlier poster noted.

There are already rules to deal with egregious conduct.

No rules will be changed from this event.

Have a nice day yourself.

World has been laughing at you holier than thou folks for a couple days now but y’all must be too busy tearing up the country club greens on your high horse to realize

As far as I know, they've been doing Thurs/Fri on 1 and 10 for a looooong time in USGA events. From experience in the US Senior Open since at least 1995.

Right, it took USGA over a 100 years to figure that out. 2002 was first year US Open used #1/10 tees for Thur/Fri.

Phil Mickelson is the hero of every rich white conservative in America.

Whether it's dealing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, or the USGA, you can break the rules and operate boldly in bad faith. And as long as you're rich and white enough, there are no real consequences for your actions.

Seems like a stretch

Why do people say the course was unfair? All the golfers played on the same course. Unfair is the wrong word.

It really isn't to Steve

Imagine I get to waterski a course under calm glassy water conditions, then 5 hours later you get to waterski the same course under blown out windy choppy conditions. Same course tho.

You're correct, since it's already been pointed out itt there is no such thing as fair in golf.

So Michelson pulls a JR Smith - tries to con the media with some flimsy excuse for dumb actions - sees no one buys it, then admits mistake.

Unfairness in golf exists when a good shot gets little or no reward compared to a mediocre shot. Like a hole being located at the top of a little hill so that a shot 15 feet from the cup rolls to about the same location as a shot that was 40 feet away from the cup to start with.

This is basically correct.

The proper course is to laugh atthe idiocy, laugh at JR some more because he’s a pathological idiot, and watch the World Cup or something