What are the ranges to be aware of with this stat- what % is passive and what is agro- think I prefer the sound of this over agg factor.

Yes but putting an interpreted language in as middleware in an application where you would like a response before May 2047 isn't the best idea.

You're referring to stats and the db as if they are the same thing, PT stores a lot more than just stats. Take a look at the player_winnings table and you'll see that the hand does relate to every other player.
To ensure that all STATS are recent, PAHud needs a filter which is more granular/flexible than 'Show Stats from the Last X Hands Only'

Josh, Pat, et all -

First off, I love PT, and want you to know that you have my upmost thanks for your hard work. I have always received good support from you guys.

My comments -

First: Speed. It has already been mentioned, but I'll reiterate it. Imports are just too slow.

Second: Have you considered revamping your business model to include one or more team members who are dedicated full-time to developing the next major release of the product? I bought PT around 4 years ago, and today it is still version 2.xxxxx That is an AWFULLY long time to pass between major releases.

It seems to me that the PT team spends most of its time fixing bugs, helping out with technical issues, and developing minor upgrades. While these items are certainly important, it is also important to understand that system development is a process and not just a one-time event.

Many others have suggested a small recurring subscription or license fee. I think that such a fee could be used to fund a full-time person dedicated to developing the next major release of the software. Most users would probably not object to this.

Hi Josh,

First of all i would like to thank Pat and his team and yourself and all your team.PT+PAHUD is very good software and you both give good support.Haters plz dont post unless you have and constuctive critisims or suggestions for future delopment you wasting everyones time.

Not sure if this has been mentioned but in PT i would like to view all of my monthly winnings not just cash game winnings or tornament winnings.Players buy this software for ease of tracking.We should not have to open up 2 databases to see results of both cash and tornament play.Maybe have the tottall winnings from cash/tornaments on the tool bar at the top of poker tracker on the main lobby window before the databases our open.Any thoughts on this small simple idea....?

PartyScout

So do all the big money online players use some kind of tracking software?

Id kinda like to see how much money I make every day of the week. After a few months, get a pretty accurate idea what time or day I should play more and my expected $/h. Not that I dont know saturday night is probably better then monday afternoon, but it would be nice to see by how much its better.

That's in the current pt, I think one of the buttons like "more detail" on session tab

Not sure if this has been mentioned. What about some detailed kind of filter where you can pull hands with a certain type of action. Like all hands where I have ATs OTB with one limper and I raise. Then say I want to see all of those hands where the limper donks the flop, etc. etc. It would be a great tool for evaluating the way you routinely play hands.

That is simply the inverse of Folds to <Flop/Turn/River> Bet which is already in PAH. What am I missing? The combination of this stat with Aggression Frequency should be more than sufficient, no?

Just my personal opinions but

Aggressive: 40+
Neutral: 30-40
Passive: Less than 30

The business model will be revamped for PT3. Currently, Pat does everything PT related. PT3 will involve Josh, myself and Pat to a much lesser extent.

Agreed and I think you will see a major change once PT3 is released.

I would like to stay away from subscriptions. While some may not mind, I think most would. I do not think its necessary at this point in time.

PokerTracker is the standard online tracking software and is used by any serious poker player.

This is already available in PokerTracker. Session Notes Tab -> More Detail... (upper right)

Yes, we'll definitely have more advanced filtering options for hands.

I am sort of looking at it from the point of view that it could easily be done, I realize it can't presently be done as I posted about it around a year ago in the PT forum, but I'm saying that the hands should be able to be assesed for statistical purposes and then discarded, simply keeping the statistics from a HUD point of view for people who use observed hands only for HUD purposes- what do I care who has won how much from who in hands I'm not even playing in let alone ones that I did. I would like to be able to keep my computer datamining 12 tables whenever it is on and refeshing my stats to the most recent 2000 hands on each player, simply in terms of VPIP PFR WSD Folds CB Agg Freq Folds Steal- seems pretty simple when starting from scratch. As things are at the moment to get a decent sample on some players who play less frequently you would have to end up with 40,000 hands or so for each of the regulars.

I do use Spade Eye which has filtering features etc but it seems to get to a point where it is constantly opening and closing tables outside the criteria- that then brings with it the added inconvenience of tables constantly being opened and closed on your desktop.

I though you would have known this dave.

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TBH I know very little about PERL, and I was unaware it was considered slow... I was under the impression it was semi-compiled rather than repeatedly run-time interpreted language, but I do know very little about it.

It was just the first thing that came in to my head with regards to database back-end abstraction (IIRC PERL has something... DBI? that allows similar code to work many database engines)

I didn't mean to suggest adoption of a slow technology lol, just a random thought - but saying that PERL is *supposed* to be fast as hell at text processing - would it not make ANY sense to write the parser / DB import routines in such?

*** I'll reiterate - I have no real knowledge/experience of using PERL, just throwing random thoughts out there. I'd be interested to know *why* it would be slow though... learning = g00t

dave.

Whatever you do, keep the stellar support- its awesome!

The problem with this section is that it is based solely on the start time for each session. For example, if you start playing at a table at 1:55 and play until 3:55, all hands played will be reported in the 12:00 - 2:00 slot and none will be reported in the 2:00 - 4:00 time slot. This is pretty much useless as an aid to deciding when to play. The time slots need to be filled based on the starting time for each hand.

One hour time slots would also be a big improvement, as the quality of tables often changes dramatically from one hour to the next at certain times of the day.

In addition, it would be really useful to be able to filter all data sections by time of day, based on when hands are played.

Love PAHUD and PT!! Also, love these suggestions so far.

It would be supercool if you could pull down stats from OfficialPokerRankings.com and put them in the heads-up display detail. Or any similar online database with somewhat reliable and comprehensive statistics.

Built-in support for Bodog would be great.

Ok, I gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. I'll see what we can do

No. The main problem is that it isn't simple. I'd have to calculate the inverse of the average of three stats to get the simple looseness measure I'd like to see. With 15 seconds to act, I want a few simple stats most of the time. PFR, VPIP, and Aggression Frequency qualify. I'm suggesting adding a similarly simple postflop looseness measure.

If it's just the inverse of those three stats, it sounds like it would be easy to add. And, in my opinion, you'd add another winner as you did when you created Aggression Frequency.

Also, you might consider whether a looseness measure should include aggression as well. Perhaps not. The inverse of Folds to <Flop/Turn/River> Bet presumably also includes aggression (raises). Perhaps percentage of time they call is the optimal measure, though I don't know if it would be as easy to produce that stat.

Good idea. In the next FTP Answers thread in Internet Gambling, we should ask.

Definitely would like to see this little "bug" fixed. Also would like to have a filter for the time of day in the preferences tab (ie. "view hands since 8 am") so that if I play an early morning session and then another session after work I'd be able to view only the hands from the evening session as I import them while playing. Not a huge deal but it wold be a nice thing to have.

Just reading half of the whiny demanding posts in this thread gave me a massive headache. I pity you PA.