For FT resizeable tables, download the latest beta version of PA Hud.

As for existing PT + PA Hud users, the new software will definitely be available to them at a discount.

I have always been careful when adding features to PA Hud that I don't cross the line of making the software "too powerful" and risk bringing the wrath of the poker sites. I believe this is very important and is something few software developers actually take into consideration.

Also inevitable.

Edit: it's also a discussion that should take place elsewhere.

Better hand replayer thats for sure

Like replay everytime you had AA and saw a flop.

and you can look at how they went.

so your in constant contact with mainframe sites like PokerStars and FullTilt asking what they will and will not accept, correct?

A filter which would surpass PO's.

A filter which would incorporate bet-size data.

A filter which would incorporate betting patterns.

Hand-replayer with customizable stats.

A filter which would incorporate pot-equity in certain situations.

The ability to infer how an opponent may alter his play with regard to position via PAHUD (beyond att.steal:PFR).

You need to make it easier for the player to research his/her game. It should be able to get answers to questions like:
Are my net results playing in this position normally distributed or are they skewed in one way or another or heavely affected by a few outliers, any discernable trends or patterns?
How does my results playing suited connectors differ from other (winning/losing) players in my data base, any discernable trends or patterns?
How does my session-by-session results correlate with my session-by-session post-flop aggression, any discernable trends or patterns?
In short, structuring the DB so that the indivuidual user can look for whatever trends or patterns he/she wishes should be key.
Don't only keep track of the calling/betting/raising frequencies, keep track of the amounts as well, both in multiples of big blinds and pot size at start of street.
You also should be able to ask questions like, "what is the pot size distribution on a specific street, in absolute amounts/BBs/or players still in hand?" And following on that thought, "how are my hand-by hand results affected by pot-size / stack-size relations, given different hand types / position / opponet post-flop aggression, any apparent correlations or discernable trends or patterns?"
I am not saying that the questions above all are good ones or that I would ask them all myself given the opportunity. I am saying that the software and DB need to be structured so that they can be asked and answered, if the player so wishes.
There should also be room for custom calculations and DB fields. For example, to get a quick feel for whether an opponent is positionally aware I would like to be able to create and store a ratio between flops seen from an early position and a late position.
As for the HUD it should be easier to change layouts and transfer those between tables and sites. As it is now, if you want to change the content displayed you have to do it table by table and site by site, unless you want to go through the slow process of tweaking each and every table layout after a new export/import.
That about covers it...
Oh, and I noticed you took some crap for posting this request. I see nothing wrong with your post as your competitors are free to read my sugestions as well.
I am no DB expert, but I have developed a good brain for thinking about similar DB / research software issues in my professional life, so don't hesitate to ask me for additional feedback
Good luck,

Many of these are covered already but i guess you make a straw pole of how many people ask for a feature so here are mine.

Microsoft SQL Express 2005 would be nice if possible though not a drop dead requirement

3/4 bets stats

Evaluation of running good or bad, similar add ons are out there but i would like to see an accurate graph of if i am running ahead of of behind my expected win rates etc. i.e. If i go through a downswing i would like to see if this is because i am running bad or just playing bad type idea.

HUD and PT all integrated and installed/updated as one application.

HUD ability to display stats based on position, eg SB stats and estimated ranges associated. With big enough samples these would be refined based on hands seen in this position and possibly detail shown as pop up when clicked (be even better if then when someone 3bet/4bet the HUD range dynamically changed based on 3 bet range etc) Simple example if i get 4 bet and 4 times this guy has done it and only ever showed AA it would be nice to know (and fold most likely) Range would be given along the lines of top 15% hands etc related to Slansky ratings or similar mechanism, eg if i drag Pokerstove to top 15% hands it shows me the range.

Speed with larger databases, which then allows me to keep all hands in one databse.

Ability to have one Database then only show hands related to it, ie Headup and 6 Max in same database then just show 6 max in one database. At the moment i can't play HU and 6 Max on the same site at the same time as autoimport sticks them in the same DB and right now i need them separated.

Easy to setup database access from multiple machines so i can use my portable in another room and use a database stored on a "server" machine which i normally use.

HUD support for iPoker and a quicker way to replay hands by just clicking on the table and saying reply hand.

I'd like to have my HUD stats viewable on the hand history replayer.

Those asking for SQL Server 2005 Express to be the back end should take note of this from the MS website:

"With a database size limit of 4 gigabytes (GB) and support for one CPU and up to 1 GB of RAM, SQL Server 2005 Express Edition is suitable for application embedding or lightweight application development."

I'm not sure if people will be willing to pay any amount if the software is just a face lift with minor enhancements.

Example:
- Not using MS Access as a DB in PT <-- this is already possible
- Speed issues <-- this isn't an issue for everyone
- 3bet/etc <-- this is to be expected as regular feature enhancements, in some cases these already exist as free alternate add-ons

My gripe is I purchased PT+HUD less than a month ago. I don't mind that the software (especially PT) looks like it was made in 1995 because it does its job well.

I run PT+HUD because it provides me with useful information on the players I sit down at a table with in addition to allow me to track my progress and improve my game. I do not care about 32 bit icons, flat toolbars, and an improved datagrid control.

The application would have to be groundbreaking to get another penny from me. Not just a few new features and a fancy UI.

Let's face it. I imagine most people open up PT, start the auto-importer and let it run while they play. Does it really matter what the app looks like graphically?

In the end, after a session it still doesn't really matter. The data is provided to you in an easy to navigate fashion.

TBH the users shouldn't have to suffer due to improper code management. If the core of the app needs to be re-written, and you think a new UI is in order this should be a standard new version. Not a separate product which needs to be re-sold.

Perhaps you guys should go all out and create this new version. Offer it as a standard new version (with the current feature set of PT+HUD + misc features). Then using the new code infrastructure, offer add-ons that perform groundbreaking features for an added fee.

Similar to PAHUD. People buy this because it offers an extremely useful feature to PT.

cakepoker doesn't at any rate hence "adds date and an incrementing time based on date of creation of file"
Thanks

I assume that these enhancements would be the base for the next generation of PT; however, would not be limited to that. These might be the first steps but certainly not the last. Regardless, IMHO, even these improvements you listed would be well worth an upgrade fee. That is certainly up to the end-user though.

I completely agree, I'm sure there will be other things. That is the problem though. We shouldn't be forced into features when alternates exist for free.

A 3betting field is not worth it to me alone. All this requires is adding a "PF_3bet" field to a table in the database then attachment a small calculation to it.

I wouldn't be surprised if PT:TNG had a type of grapher built into it too. Sure, that's neat, but Poker Grapher has been doing this for years and it's working today.

Sometimes as a developer you just have to bite the bullet and not try to squeeze profits when you have an urge to re-design your app from the ground up.

When an app needs to be redesigned from the ground up, this means the developer was at fault. He underestimated the market of the app in addition to user requests/demands when initially coding the app.

It doesn't mean the developer is an idiot though. If anything it shows the developer isn't an idiot. He/They were able to provide users what they want with this inferior code structure.

Now, fast forward a couple years and it's getting to be a huge mess. He/They decide to rewrite it, and now we have to pay for a new package but we (the end user) see nothing but prettier icons and features that already exist.

I could be way off here, and they do indeed have crazy things up their sleeves that will make the upgrade fee well worth it, but I'll have to see it to believe it. As a developer and someone who has followed many software packages I'm pretty skeptical when a developer starts saying "zomg new design, new features, ...oh yeah you will have to repurchase the app".

PokerOffice did exactly as PT/PAHUD are suggesting very succesfully.

They completely overhauled their product and it was a huge improvement from PO1. Only mistake they made was it was still all java based and slow as hell when you got lots of tables open and a large db.

I suggested this exact idea on the PT forum probably 6 months ago, and I think it is the only way to go. Many serious players are asking for improvements, but they require serious amounts of work / complete redesign of the product, and I for one are more than happy pay for this work to be completed.

Agree.

Besides the obvious things (import speed etc) I think this is a great opportunity to make the application more flexible both for future development and for users.

With that I am thinking of a metadata-based scheme in XML that makes adding new sites and changes in site layout or HH formats more easier to manage in the future (no hard-coding).

I am also thinking of something like a simple script/report language so that every user could make some individual reports or data (also visible in HUD). That would also mean that the DB had to be fully documented and available.

And for those of us cursed with programming knowledge, an programming-language-independent API where you could retrieve the basic information (who-is-at-the-table & statistics through the simple scripting, nothing that can be used for bot writing or anything unfair). This could be used both for individuals and for creating free or commercial third-party add-ons.

As previously stated, unless you have done it yourself few people understand the work necessary for support and maintenance. So all the kudos to PT + PAHUD guys for past achievements, hope you can outperform yourself with this version.

Need a bit more for headsup players. Fold blinds to steal is always 0% for headsup, I'd like to know how often I'm folding to preflop raises or 3 bets. Extremely important stat. Same with cold call pf % in the position stats tab. Maybe the blind steal stat can be redefined for 1 on 1 games.

Make things more interactive. Let us decide which columns we want to see in each tab and how we want them sorted and we should be able to save those settings.

Maybe 4 more auto rating icons should be added for more flexibility. This is especially true for headsup play.

I'd like the ability to enter in bonus/rakeback numbers as well, treat it as a separate stake or something.

Please don't include any real time hand range calcs and all that other bot-type crap. People need to learn how to pay attention and play poker. Sites would likely ban the software anyway.

That's all I can think of right now, great products guys, keep up the good work!

Definitly the two main things I will want to see in the product are improved speed importing and viewing ring game stats (You already said you will be fixing this) and please make the hand replayer as robust and good as possible! I would love if it could overlay our exact pokerace hud layout stats on the replayer for each player as they were when the hands was played (x number of hands of data for that person during that hand, then x+1 hands on next hand reviewed plus all other stats update). If this can not be done then it would still be great if the current hands for the player could be shown atleast overlayed (would not be too bad or far off if hands were reviewed same day, but could still be misleading if I didnt have much hand data on guy when I made play)

sorry I didnt word that so well but I am sure you get the idea.

Couple more things ability to export HH's directly in a format for some of the popular sites would be nice. So would the ability to say a "recording" of a hand being played back in a format such as Adobe/Macromedia stand alone Flash file. As someone else said being able to see the HUD stats in the replay window would also be great as well as/along with this feature.

Fixing the average pot size-problem at Party.

this sounds very good and interesting!

1. not enough stats
2. slow import times
3. not enough filters

Hi,

Firstly like to thankyou for producing PT+Hud. I would recommend improving...

1) PO Layout with greater use of graphs.

2) The import process should be collective. I mean is there a way for you to auto-import from a "site" and have it split into Omaha/Stud/Holdem. For people who use all3. So at least if the main programs are seperate. There is one "input" device. As Regularly I will multi-play games espically omaha and holdem.

3) I understand with performance issues moving away from Access. However, for those of use which have linked databases to perform Custom-queries and data-modelling as opposed the filters and alike in PT. There should be at least greater facilities for custom-queries or potential to export data. Potential when using custom filters for omaha like select starting hands (A2,A3 etc). When these inter-cross there is a line to represent this and remove this from the lines (i.e A2 and A23 obviously pointless seeing A23 score in A2 just as an example but when use several different hand filters could distort figures severly)

4) Storing of hand files is it possible to have these auto-compacted to 300 hands a file or a txt file per session. So when we run Anti-virus or alike (and haven't stored files to DVD) we do not have to spend ages while it searches each one.

5). Greater use of notes having the note facility within PT is kind of pointless if you play at sites where you cannot export the notes. Therefore, if this is incorporated within the Hud.

6) The Potential to hook into Poker-Academy (obviously would need agreement for replayer). So people could improve their play or understanding.

7) Have "Buttons" where we could Flag hands and have 3 buttons potentially by each player (Weak - Average - Strong). So as hands are played we could quickly flick a button and would make a "collective" score or used to filter for replayer. (OK this one is little randomn idea) But Hope the other ones are at least considered.

End of day, thats what I'm looking for, so first person/software which does the lot gets my cash.