Ok, it's working now.

I recall that the RBCalc company blamed the disaster on a rogue contract programmer who added the dishonest code - presumably for his own benefit (ie. nothing to do with the company who employed him, they assured everyone).

The saintliness of the owners of 6thSense is insufficient protection for me.

*flicks holy water*
the body of christ



Seriously though - RBCalc was a program that didnt even connect to a server. I dont see any connection between them and us.

If anything, RBCalc is evidence that whether or not you are making a server connection, you are still vulnerable. You just need to trust whoever you're getting the program from.

If you dont trust me, that's perfectly fine. But ask yourself - Do you really think i'd be standing my ground so firmly on this issue if I was actually trying to scam everybody? I truly believe that server involvement takes this program to another level.

Once the product goes live, and we have subscribers, and we have more to lose, I think that will help establish the trust that seems to be lacking for a lot of members at this point...

I have been having problems getting a login/password. I have requested one be sent to my email address (cwwhitsi@olemiss.edu) several times and I am yet to receive one. I have also checked my junk mail. If you could generate one and send it to me it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

v1.0.0.17 - 7/15/06

- Added View History Menu option
- Added Avg table VPIP, PFR in the table list
- Added new table limit ($25/$50 NL, e.g. $5000 NL) to Game Filter Dialog
- Added menu to open the top 12 tables in the list (CTRL-Z)
- Changed buttons on dialogs to "Save & Close"
- Fixed server stability issue (can now reconnect to database if it shuts down)
- Fixed Refresh Bug
- Fixed Updated field to use proper timezone comparison

In the very near future - Absolute Poker

word up
-Dan

seems like a great program. PTS doesn't work half the time, and their support is pretty awful, so i'm glad there is finally a better option.

i'm having one problem though. i deleted the cache and now the refresh button is frozen. i see you fixed a "refresh bug" so i'm assuming that's what it is, but i have the newest version and it's still not working.

I have the same problem.

But if you wait for a while, the "Refresh" button becomes active. That's the case with me anyway.

i like the software, it's very useful and i'll probably end up buying it in the future when it goes beta.

i think you could make it a bit more efficient though.

one thing i'd love to see is customizable filters. not sure if you have this already.

basically, i usually classify a game as very good if there are two players sitting at 40% VPIP or higher at a 6 max table. may be you could have a customizable column where you could define a vpip, and you can sort it by how many players are sitting at that table with that vpip or higher.

right now since i only play at party there isn't a whole lot of difference between running through the 5/6 (total players) and just checking to see if there are 4-5 regulars at the table. if there are, i just move on, etc. i could see it being very useful for multiple sites at higher stakes, but for us small/midstakes guys i think having just a easy to see 'how many fish/table' column would make selecting a table easier and not as labor intensive when playing 9 tables at once. can just click refresh, glance at the list, see a open seat at a table with 3 40% vps, sit.

it's a bit distracting when i see a table average VPIP at 50% but i click on table and only see i have hands logged on one person. just makes it a bit quicker i think.

This looks really interesting. I installed yesterday and entered username(glenn) and mail. Still haven't got a mail with a password. I did use a hotmail adress, but if it was junk-filtered it would still end up in my junk email box, right?

Downloaded it, registered, got my password instantly. No problems with getting it to work with Pokertracker so kudo's on that department.

Two things though...

1. 6max!! I know you guys are working on it but I can't really try it out until 6max is added as that is the only thing I play. (I'm just impatient, don't bother repeating that you're on top of it )

2. Am I correct in thinking that you are planning to charge 29$ a month for the end product? I think that's a bit steep for the lower stakes players. Can't you put in a possibility to only get it working up to a certain stake for 9,95$ then an intermediate for 19,95$ and all stakes for 29,95$? This would bring some balance in the amount of BB this software costs you a month and the amount it will make you.

I for one will not be using this if it's 29$ a month for the time being, if I start playing higher stakes it's a different story of course as I do understand the potential extra profit this software brings.

I'm really eager to see it work with a couple of sites implemented, that's going to be really great!!

just wanted to say that i too like the software, and appreciate the support/time you're putting in to make the potential customers happy.

but like a few other people have said, i think $30/month is too much.

We havent heard about this one until these posts.
Josh - is it completely unworkable for you? Usually when the refresh bug shows up, resetting the program will fix any problems.

If that doesnt fix it, Ben will soon enough

cheers
-Dan

Heya, mk

If you right click the toolbar, you'll see a Custom Scoring option. This will allow you to set the rules you want. There is a Custom Scoring walkthrough guide on our website.

If you only want to search for people with 40% vpip or higher, all you would need is 1 rule, and then you could sort your tables by Fish Score and see how many qualifying players are sitting at each table.

It's not exactly what you were asking for, but it would get the job done just as well

Hope this helps,
-Dan

I actually tested my personal hotmail address the first time I tested the sign-up process, and had the exact same problem. I always expect to see filtered mail in my junkmail folder too, but it seems like hotmail completely blocks ours.

When Ben sees this message, he'll send you your user info (if he hasnt already )

-Dan

Tim - 6max limit fish scoring will be up shortly. Until then you can still take advantage of the custom scoring option. It wont be as complex, but you dont always need dynamite to catch a fish

As for the cost - we've been discussing this in great detail lately, and the good news is - the payment system will be tiered. The more features you wish to have, the higher the price.

This means that people who only want to scan 1 site, or just a few games will have to pay much less than the multi-tabling multi-lobbying full timers.

The exact prices are still unknown, but I will tell you this - once Sixth Sense supports 5+ different sites, (and it will much sooner than you would expect) the people who take advantage of the ability to scan multiple lobbies will not regret the <1$/day it would cost them to do so.

Even at the 25NL level, the EV vs the cost would be far in favor of the player. (But at the 25NL level, you really wouldnt need multiple sites...so it'd be cheaper anyway )

When we can give you more detail on the price, we will.


As for the beta period - Would 20$ for a minimum 1 month guaranteed (Full) service be fair? By full service I mean - every site, every limit, every game we upgrade to support, you have access to until the end of the beta period. If we're not ready to release at the end of that period - free extention for all beta customers.
This isn't set in stone, we're still bouncing ideas around.


Hope that cleared some things up for y'all.

And thank you all for your kind words We love to see our work appreciated.

later
-Dan

Well, looks like a good product (and kudos to Ben Ziegler), and lack of time spent scanning on the client side is great, but PTS works just fine for me. I have to wait about 6 mins for a full list scan, and continous scanning is an annoyance, but those are the only disadvantages.

The problem here is the cost. Yes, ok, for a higher stakes player who is reasonably convinced he'll see at least a little increase in his winrate it's a non-issue, but I really don't see a slightly-better-than-break-even low staker such as myself paying more than a few bucks/m for this when PTS is readily available for what, $20 up front? Forget $29/m, even $10/m is high. Yes, it's absolutely +EV if you aren't doing this already - but see, we are.

Like I said if you are targeting the already well-profitable poker player, charge as much as you want. But if you want a wider audience than that I think the price has to come down BIG time.

On the bright side, maybe this will finally convince ptssupport to build scanning on another machine into the next release of PTS

This program rocks!!! I play 1/2 NL (10 Max) at Party. Usually I open up 12 tables at randon and select the best 2-4 tables to play based on PAHUD.

Last night I use Sixth Sense. I was able to look at all 40 tables and open up the best tables to play. I recognized some of the regular fish (some others might say that about me, though) and jumped to those tables. The buddy feature made it easier to do as the night went on.

I need to learn more about the custom scoring feature and will report back my findings. The out of the box scoring is ok. It gave me a rough ordering of the tables, but I tended to look for high VP, low aggro, and low BB/100 (typical stuff). I hope I can use the customer scoring to do this.

Awesome program. Put me down for a copy without a doubt.

-Mike

Btw, is your programmer, Bziegler, the same guy that wrote Xylobot for Everquest. If so, this program is sure to have lots of good customer support and added features based on user needs over time. I used Xylobot for a couple of years. Of course now Poker takes up all my free time

Didn't work for me. Setup my database, got the table list, but:

1-Memory use MORE THAN DOUBLES UP when SixtSense runs (and accesses the db)
2-The Refresh button and the Job menu item are now greyed out.
3-I get this error in the log:

7/16/2006 8:44:54 AM App NameQry troyfey
7/16/2006 8:44:54 AM Job Error Error Unexpected protocol character from backend (send_query);
Unexpected protocol character from backend (send_query)
7/16/2006 8:45:56 AM Job Error Unexpected protocol character from backend (send_query);

I'm using Microsoft provider for ODBC because the PostgreSQL provider doesn't work: "Test connection failed because of an error in initializing provider. Unspecified error."

I feel like I paid you to write that...lol

Thank you!

This all sounds very reasonable to me, count me in as a paying customer!

bhud - if you post a screen shot of
a) your datalink connection tab
[right click, Select Database..., connection tab]
b) your Pokertracker database list
[File, Maintain Database Names]
I should be able to tell you how to configure it.

There is also a database configuring guide on the sixth sense website.

-Dan

Ok, I went ahead and downloaded the program...

A couple of suggestions:

Custom Scoring
1. Please add 'Won $ @ SD'
2. There needs to be some type of priority (much like PT auto rate)

Buddy List
I'd love the ability to highlight a table with a color dependent on whether or not a certain player is at the table.

Sites
PokerStars should be your next site added

When you hit 'refresh', it pulls the data from the server and then in the background it rates the players accordingly. While this rating is taking place you can not refresh; hence, the refresh button is disabled. Once the rating process is completed you can refresh again...

Gee, reading the instructions actually helps!

OK, my initial suggestions:

1-Incorporate stack size as a possible field for custom scoring (in multiples of BB is fine, like how PTS does it). I'd rather not chase after penniless fish.

2-I'd like to be able to display and sort on both my custom score and your Fish score to see which one works better. Perhaps even a combined score giving them different user-assigned weights.

nope, i uninstalled and reinstalled, restarted my computer, etc and it just doesn't work now. up until then it was working out, though for some reason it was only rating like 2/3 the tables which is why i cleared the cache. now the refresh button is frozen and it won't rate the tables