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07-11-2009 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by LouBlue
Why are you on strike?
I am in no hurry to get started learning SVG.
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07-11-2009 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Syfted
He's on strike because he's pissed Full Tilt switched over to vector based files from rasterized ones. As a result, none of his mods work, and it takes TONS of effort to rebuild old mods in .SVG format. Not only that, but his mastery is probably in Photoshop and NOT in Illustrator.
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It REALLY does suck for Fozzy, but the switch from .PNG to .SVG was inevitable. Vector based files are far superior for applications such as this, and the best graphics in any poker client- the old Doyle's Room on microgaming- didn't use raster for that reason.

and fwiw, Full Tilt looks way prettier now once you add some nice mods, especially if you aren't a multi-tabling robot.
I disagree entirely. The FTP client does not reproduce the SVG files accurately at all. The PNG chip files look 10x better now, thru the new client, than they did before. So it stands to reason that PNG decks would also look better. I believe if there were 7 different sized sets of 52 individual PNGs for the deck, they would look better than before, and they would be able to display better than the SVG decks at small tables. We would also be able to make rounded corners on the deck PNG files, as the new client has completely gotten rid of the semi-transparency issue with the old client, as well as still be able to oversize the cards.
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07-11-2009 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Syfted
As far as blackout mods go, I AM SO FREAKING CLOSE, but am getting these ****ty blue lines around my buttons... everything in my C:\Program Files\Full Tilt Poker\Graphics\NewTable\Common\Buttons folder is desaturated...



grrrrrr
Had the same problem.
I had to export those particular .svgs to .png and then adjust to b+w in photoshop, switch colorspace to Indexed before saving back to .png, and then convert the .png back to .svg in inkspace. Some buttons then would or would not appear on the table. For the ones that did not show, putting the converted .pngs in with the .svgs in the folder seemed to help make the stubborn files work, when they did not want to show up.. This worked for me, but cant be sure its universal.. Hope this helps.
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07-11-2009 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie Robb
The only thing comes to immediate mind is make sure you saving as Plain SVG and not Inkscape SVG.

Edit: Nevermind - I see you found the real issue. :-)
I've actually found no difference in Inkscape SVG or Plain SVG
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07-11-2009 , 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
I disagree entirely. The FTP client does not reproduce the SVG files accurately at all. The PNG chip files look 10x better now, thru the new client, than they did before. So it stands to reason that PNG decks would also look better. I believe if there were 7 different sized sets of 52 individual PNGs for the deck, they would look better than before, and they would be able to display better than the SVG decks at small tables. We would also be able to make rounded corners on the deck PNG files, as the new client has completely gotten rid of the semi-transparency issue with the old client, as well as still be able to oversize the cards.
This is a very good point I never actually considered... btw, do you have any contact with the artists over at FT? We should probably try getting in touch with them, their input would be extremely valuable.

@Jdennis, I'm going to mess with those ideas, thanks
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07-11-2009 , 02:07 PM
this mod (red button + cards + bigger font)



Guys sorry for the file size (17mb), but I didnt have time to choose only modified files, so i just .rar'ed the whole Graphics directory. It will work for everybody who uses CLASSIC mode.
also don't forget to turn 4deck color OFF!

link: http://depositfiles.com/files/kwr8ilr8m

UPD: i made 'jungle' dark blue. and 'midnight' is black obv

Last edited by h1nt; 07-11-2009 at 02:37 PM.
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07-11-2009 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
All of THIS



I disagree entirely. The FTP client does not reproduce the SVG files accurately at all. The PNG chip files look 10x better now, thru the new client, than they did before. So it stands to reason that PNG decks would also look better. I believe if there were 7 different sized sets of 52 individual PNGs for the deck, they would look better than before, and they would be able to display better than the SVG decks at small tables. We would also be able to make rounded corners on the deck PNG files, as the new client has completely gotten rid of the semi-transparency issue with the old client, as well as still be able to oversize the cards.
I agree they dont rasterize well, thus making any definitions blurry or jagged.
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07-11-2009 , 02:11 PM
I have no contacts at FTP. AFAIK I know they frown on people doing what I do to their software, unlike Stars that makes an integrated method.

I think we should all start working on a form letter for them to revert to some form of multiple sized PNGs. The semi-transparency shouldn't be an issue, thus eliminating the need for the black frame/template of the old decks. We should be able to make smoothly rounded corners, like the PNG files on Party.

I haven't tried using any of the free SVG files ITT yet, but I expect the LoRes versions of them are not being displayed as accurately as they should be. So far all the standard size SVG decks I have seen, look bad. Nothing against the artists, it's the way the FTP client reproduces the SVG files. Any diagonal text lines, like the outer edges of an 'A' appear jagged/fuzzy to me. The default FTP LoRes decks are atrocious, and I don't really see how it will be easily overcome. I will unzip and test some of these SVG decks today/tomorrow. If they are affected as badly as my test deck, that I was working on in the beta client, I have to assume I will not like how they look when scaled below the LoRes size.
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07-11-2009 , 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by abstractls
I agree they dont rasterize well, thus making any definitions blurry or jagged.
QFMFTruthiness
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07-11-2009 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
I am in no hurry to get started learning SVG.
Doh, just bought one of your Stars decks... Was hoping you were working on the new Full Tilt system.

Man, this update sucks on so many levels.
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07-11-2009 , 02:20 PM
I will be working on them, once I get my 2nd monitor replaced. I am doing the themes first, because that is rather straight forward. Most of it is bulk png2svg conversions, and a few Save As for some of the images, that need to be positioned on different sized canvases than before. Most of the time for the themes will be spent putting them together in the new format, and building/testing installers. Then I will start trying to properly re-create some of my old decks in SVG. It will be a very long time before you see 'new' FTP mods from me, if ever. I don't play there any longer, and have been waiting for rakeback for almost 6 months. FTP can suck a dick afaic.
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07-11-2009 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Syfted
ahahhaha what is with you people and not liking T? Currently I'm working on the following:

-Mini cards for tile tabling
-Blackout table theme

I'll probably release them both at once.

In the future I'll also be working on black spades, but am holding off because they don't go well with the black tables that are ridiculously popular.

Unfortunately numeric 10s aren't really on my hit list. The problem is that fitting a 10 on a card would mean making the 10 pretty squishy, and it causes issues when tiling. I might dabble with it in the future...

Fozzy/Quick, either of you have anything hot in the works?
Syft,

Yellow spades work really well against a black table. About the same shade as the yellow on Fozzy's Arial deck. I couldn't use your deck as it is at the moment. The clubs and spades are pretty earthy and desaturated. Brightening things up a bit seems to make it easier to differentiate between suits when playing more than a couple of tables.
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07-11-2009 , 02:36 PM
You are correct about the jagged edges fozz, they are not well anti-aliased.

And I wouldn't be against going back to PNG, since all the stuff I made would be easier to convert to PNG than it would be for you to convert to SVG.

I imagine you're sol though, FT probably won't do it.
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07-11-2009 , 02:36 PM
crossposting this here and in the update thread because here are more ppl who might know anything about this:

ok, so this is how ftp scales svgs (no converted pngs - pure vectors)

cards on default sized tables:



cards on oversized tables:



cards on smaller tables:






seriously im not happy with that at all and this is not my fault. its the format ftp uses and i dont have a clue how to solve this. imo its not possible.
i have no clue why ftp did that or if i can change their mind somehow or contact them.
let me know what you think guys and how to proceed? maybe we should bomb ftp with mails to step back from their current deck format
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07-11-2009 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Houserocker
Syft,

Yellow spades work really well against a black table. About the same shade as the yellow on Fozzy's Arial deck. I couldn't use your deck as it is at the moment. The clubs and spades are pretty earthy and desaturated. Brightening things up a bit seems to make it easier to differentiate between suits when playing more than a couple of tables.
I was kinda afraid of this, I figured they were a bit dark. I might go back and brighten em up.
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07-11-2009 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Quicksilver
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cards on smaller tables:




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Last edited by fozzy71; 07-11-2009 at 02:42 PM. Reason: That isn't even the smallest resolution, is it???
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07-11-2009 , 02:43 PM
Quick, there is NO way around fixing that that I know of atm. It's extremely crappy.

btw, to get your cards lores, did you individually import and shrink each card, or do you have some way to batch process them?
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07-11-2009 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Syfted
Quick, there is NO way around fixing that that I know of atm.

btw, to get your cards lores, did you individually import and shrink each card, or do you have some way to batch process them?
IMO, the only way to make the LoRes version is to make them from scratch again.
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07-11-2009 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fozzy71
IMO, the only way to make the LoRes version is to make them from scratch again.
Since I cascade I probably won't...

Last edited by Syfted; 07-11-2009 at 02:48 PM. Reason: 69 post give it to me baby
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07-11-2009 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by outphasen
PITR Skin w/abstractls cards
DOWNLOAD


PITR Skin w/abstractls cards (modified version)
DOWNLOAD


For both skins replace your

C:\Program Files\Full Tilt Poker\Graphics\NewTable\

with the contents of the zip file.

go to Options > Table View and switch the table view to Racetrack and background to marble

Enjoy
Thanks, nice mod. Outphasen, pm me your FT name and I will send you a little token of my appreciation for the mod.
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07-11-2009 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Quicksilver
crossposting this here and in the update thread because here are more ppl who might know anything about this:

ok, so this is how ftp scales svgs (no converted pngs - pure vectors)

cards on default sized tables:



.....truncated



seriously im not happy with that at all and this is not my fault. its the format ftp uses and i dont have a clue how to solve this. imo its not possible.
i have no clue why ftp did that or if i can change their mind somehow or contact them.
let me know what you think guys and how to proceed? maybe we should bomb ftp with mails to step back from their current deck format
These actually look really good to me.

PS Is that a 30" inch monitor you are using to tile 6 at default table size?
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07-11-2009 , 02:56 PM
3rd image is last size b4 lores and it stinks
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07-11-2009 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Syfted
Coming soon man no worries =)

You can download the deck here though:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JTDBF0US
This looks nice, but I like plain and simple backs and the cards change when the tables get smaller. Wish they would stay the same....
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07-11-2009 , 02:59 PM
Do any of u know how to change the color of the JOIN TABLE of the seat open ? thx
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07-11-2009 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by triplej2688
This looks nice, but I like plain and simple backs and the cards change when the tables get smaller. Wish they would stay the same....
You can use any backs you want, including the default FTP backs. Just dont copy over the folders card_backs and card_backs_lores, or put you own backs into these folders.

That is the one thing I like about the new decks is that the Backs aren't tied to a particular deck. Just gives you a little more freedom.
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