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2. Long term losers: do they really exist? In my pokertracker DB, the biggest losers seem to go busto fast and disappear forever. If you rate all players with less than a set number of hands as neutral, you're doing your ratings a disservice. A player with a small number of hands in your DB, particularly if he has a high VPIP, is almost GUARANTEED to be a fish. Probably even moreso than a guy with 1000 hands of losing poker. It might actually be easiest to just penalize tables with long-term winners at them. Regardless, a new player who you've never datamined before has a high probability of being a fish, even if you know nothing else about them.

They definitely exsist. You would be surprised how many players out there constantly lose over very long periods of time. I know there are some threads you can find here on the 2+2 boards that show graphs of these types of players. They are out there and are definitely good to have at your table.

Dave

02-05-2008 , 05:02 PM

#127

daveymck

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 5,601

Is this down, bringing nothing back for me.

02-05-2008 , 06:12 PM

#128

jschell

adept

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 830

works for me

02-11-2008 , 10:00 AM

#129

NoTurns

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 104

Nice website! There are numerous table selection tools but not one has a good, wide spread coverage over multiple sites imho, and thats where a big part of the benefit of these apps should come from. So, if more rooms are added I may very well be willing to pay for a service like this!

Please add one vote for Betfair from me! (Not a single table selection tool supports betfair so far...)

02-18-2008 , 07:36 PM

#130

Shanagian

grinder

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 403

"No Results! Adjust search parameters and try again.
Or click on one of the popular searches."

I get this message when I try searching for Full tilt 25 nl 6 max

02-28-2008 , 11:58 AM

#131

reMAX21

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2

Is your scanner for FT down? All the FT tables in 50NL, 100NL, 200NL show a rating of 0.

02-28-2008 , 01:13 PM

#132

ericishungry

adept

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,191

That's what I just got too.

02-28-2008 , 06:58 PM

#133

TableRatings

banned

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 48

Hey Guys,
Full Tilt patched today, which temporarily brought our scanners down. We've updated everything for compatibility, and things are working fine again now.

Dave

05-13-2008 , 03:43 PM

#134

henry1au

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 285

Could you add an indicator that tells when a table is Capped or not?

05-17-2008 , 12:53 PM

#135

random001

stranger

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by TableRatings

Hey Guys,
Full Tilt patched today, which temporarily brought our scanners down. We've updated everything for compatibility, and things are working fine again now.

Dave

I've registered but haven't got any email regarding activation, I even used another email account to try to register, yet same thing. Any ideas if activation links being sent out is down?

05-19-2008 , 01:50 AM

#136

random001

stranger

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by random001

I've registered but haven't got any email regarding activation, I even used another email account to try to register, yet same thing. Any ideas if activation links being sent out is down?

still waiting for response from tableratings...

what's up ?

08-11-2008 , 12:38 PM

#137

TableRatings

banned

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 48

Hey Guys,
Just want to let you know that we've added some powerful new features to the tableratings.com website.

With our new player research tool you can type in a player's screen name to see a complete career overview including best/worst hands, and all sessions. Click to replay the hands and sessions in our flash replayer.

My favorite new feature is the player vs. opponent tool. Enter in 2 player screen names to see how they have fared against each other throughout their careers. This includes both heads up play, and full ring games!

And of course, we still have the original table selection tool that you know and love. Feel free to give us feedback and feature requests!

Dave

08-29-2008 , 06:54 AM

#138

Melville

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 359

nice work, tableratings, any chance you will add everst to your site soon?

08-29-2008 , 10:49 AM

#139

wild_mutt

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 22

i love the site and use it regularly, but tables move from the top 10% to the bottom 10% within minutes/seconds sometimes - are there any plans to tweak the algorithm to stabilize the results...?

08-29-2008 , 11:03 AM

#140

Melville

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 359

Quote:

Originally Posted by wild_mutt

i love the site and use it regularly, but tables move from the top 10% to the bottom 10% within minutes/seconds sometimes - are there any plans to tweak the algorithm to stabilize the results...?

…and, if this is a wish list, a way to indentify cap tables at full tilt?

08-31-2008 , 11:15 AM

#141

TableRatings

banned

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 48

Hey Guys,

If you havn't noticed we are making a lot of additions to TableRatings.com and more changes are coming.

One cool new feature we have added is an online real time buddy list. Your buddy list will show you when your buddies are online and what tables they are playing so you can sit with as many of your "friends" as possible in your poker game. You can launch the buddy list by clicking on the link in the upper right hand corner of the site when you are logged in.

You can also check out who is winning the most and losing the most in online poker in the biggest winners and losers section:

http://www.tableratings.com/topwinners.php

You can filter the results by stake level so you can not only see who is winning or losing the most overall, but you can also see who is winning the most or losing the most at the particular stake level you play.

To answer some of your question:

Quote:

i love the site and use it regularly, but tables move from the top 10% to the bottom 10% within minutes/seconds sometimes - are there any plans to tweak the algorithm to stabilize the results...?

This probably means that a big fish has gotten up from the table and a shark has sat down to replace him. If the game has changed dramatically in quality we would expect the rating to move quickly downward.

Quote:

…and, if this is a wish list, a way to indentify cap tables at full tilt?

This is something we will look into adding.

I will answer any questions you guys have so feel free to ask away.

Dave
TableRatings.com
Customer Support Lead

08-31-2008 , 04:32 PM

#142

teddyFBI

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,596

A nice feature that i really liked in Sixth Sense (before the developer more or less abandoned support) was their email fish-finding service that allowed you to sign up to receive emails telling you when buddies you designated were playing. At first, i thought it was kinda dumb, but it actually turns out that it worked pretty well. Esp at higher stakes where there really aren't schools of fish swimming about, but just a few bigger whales, it really helped to know when/where they were online and be one of the first to sit with them before the waiting list filled up.

Seems with your massive coverage, that would be a natural product for u to offer too.

08-31-2008 , 06:45 PM

#143

DonManuel

adept

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 968

Plans on adding Microgaming?

09-01-2008 , 08:03 PM

#144

teddyFBI

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,596

Quote:

Originally Posted by teddyFBI

bump -- hope u consider the above seriously!

09-01-2008 , 11:21 PM

#145

Melville

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 359

Quote:

Originally Posted by teddyFBI

bump -- hope u consider the above seriously!

qft

09-02-2008 , 05:59 AM

#146

dakra

newbie

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 24

jFYI, if you want to lookup a name through the firefox-search (on the upper right), safe:

Code:

<search
version="7.1"
name="tableratings"
description="Search www.tableratings.com"
action="http://www.tableratings.com/player_overview.php"
searchForm="http://www.tableratings.com"
method="GET"
>
    
<input name="sourceid" value="Mozilla-search">
<input name="player" user="">
   
</search>

as tableratings.src and put the file in your firefox searchplugin folder (C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox\searchplugins).

thx for the nice resource.

09-17-2008 , 04:10 PM

#147

Bill Haywood

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,191

Playing 5/10 SH FL at Tilt, a number of times Table Ratings recommendations diverged from my own judgment, and I'm trying to figure out why. Tables with one or two confirmed fish (per Poker Tracker scores) were rated below tables with lower fish scores.

Might this be because Table Ratings is evaluating players just by their win/loss record, and thus missing fish who've run good, or lack sample size to be considered?

Does the VPIP table score come from the poker room, and reflects just recent hands, or does it take into consideration the history of a player?

09-18-2008 , 12:10 PM

#148

TableRatings

banned

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Haywood

Win/Loss record is just one part of the overall table score. It could be possible that a player is coming up as an overall winner in our formula and thus decreasing the score even though they will eventually be a long term loser. There is however a threshold for the amount of history we need on a player in order for them to qualify as a winner or loser.

VPIP table score comes from the overall history of the player from our own data.

Hope this helps.

09-18-2008 , 12:30 PM

#149

Bill Haywood

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5,191

I like the service. I change tables multiple times per hour. Here's a suggestion based on how I use it.

I put TR in a diminished window at the bottom of the screen, (with the tables I'm playing in the top half). I manipulate the scroll bars so that the ratings are visible in the little browser window.

Periodically, I hit search, to freshen the info. When that happens, the info section is no longer centered in the window where it needs to be and I have to scroll both vertical and horizontal. And of course, I'm dealing with multi-tables at the same time. If a named anchor could be incorporated, that would be great, so I just have to hit "search" and everything stays where it needs to be. If I were king of the world, the relevant stats from TR would take up just one poker table's worth of real estate -- 1/4 of the screen. Then I could have three tables open, and still see the TR ratings. Maybe initiating a search could launch a new floating window of optimal size.