Hey guys, posting here to let the 2+2 community know about a new free resource called TableRatings.com. TableRatings.com ranks all available online poker tables at Party Poker, Full Tilt Poker and Bodog with our proprietary ratings system and allows you to search these rankings to find the softest available tables.

Currently, each table is ranked based upon the average VP$IP for that table, the tendency of the players at the table to be winners or losers, and the total amount of information available on the players at that table.

The Table listings are updated every few minutes so the information on the current tables will always be up to date.

TableRatings.com is free so search all you want. We would appreciate any questions or comments as well as site requests in this thread.

Thanks,
Dave

I had a look at it and it looks fine.
My only question is: what's in it for you?

Not the best time to launch such a service, table selection is going to be redundant for at least the next week.

Well for right now nothing but we would like to see if people really like it and find it useful but for now its free so enjoy.

Dave

Looks pretty good. So you're constantly data mining the games and compiling player stats?

Thats correct. We are also scanning the tables to find out who is playing at which tables so we can come up with the composite rating for that table.

Dave

higher or lower rating is better?

Very cool - do you adjust for stack size? I'd rather have a pretty bad player with 1 buyin than the worst player imaginable with 1/4 buyin.

rvg

Is the site not working now? I'm getting "no results" for pretty much every search.

Site should be back up now sorry about that.

rvg72 that is a good suggestion. I know I hate it when I'm sitting at a table with a bunch of mini stacks. We are going to continue to work on our rating algorithm as time goes on and that sounds like something that could lead to better overall ratings.

Dave

filter cap NL games or atleast let us now they are CAP NL

why are there so many tables with 0..no hands or are the tbles bad

What do you mean by this?

Anybody know if this program is legal?

Festivus = drunk morans

Looks very useful

Looks good. I'll be using it.

Glad you guys are enjoying the site.

Abvhi A higher rating is a better table on which to play. Unless you like playing on a tight table with a bunch of long term winners.

Dave

suggestion. have account info include screen name so that the results wont be altered by the player crushing the tables. i dont know if you have addressed this problem but it doesnt seem like it.

also it seems like the results flicker quite frequently. one time a table is at the top and the next time its at the bottom. over how many hands do you calculate the best tables? if you are constantly datamining yuo should have no problem returning tables that have hundreds to thousands hands spread over all the players, and a couple hands wont move the table to the bottom.

if i'm totally wrong with these assumptions, canyou just give us a basic outline of how your program picks the best tables?

yithkai,
We are constantly datamining, and we have thousands of hands on most players. Most likely if a table moves from the top of the list to the bottom of the list, it's because a huge fish (or several fish) left the table. The ratings are based on, among other things, a combination of preflop looseness, overall winners/losers, and amount of data recorded.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by including screen name in the account info. Can you clarify what you mean here?

Dave

Awesome, very useful tool... Any thoughts on adding Absolute in the future?

again what does the zero mean,bad table or not enough stats or a combo of both ,,,

That's pretty nice. Should there be also average pot size for table? Couldn't find that.

A rating of zero most likely means that the table is bad. If we do not have good data on a player the overall rating is reduced but if there were soft players at the table it shouldn't decease the bad rating too much.

The average pot size in the tables reported in the lobbies of the poker sites is based on just a few hands(usually 10 or 20) so it isn't really a good gauge of what is happening there. We find using the historical statistics of the players at the table much more useful in rating the overall quality of the play at that table.

The rating system seems pretty good - a couple of things though

1) I think you're going to have trouble with the sites because you are datamining, aggregating and sharing data (even if it is just a score) about players. The fact that you are only providing a table score and nothing else might get you around this but you should probably inquire from the sites.

2) You need a way to auto wait list / join tables. Maybe this is in a premium version or something and of course would require that people download a program from you.

rvg

rvg72, thanks for the comments. Let me respond to each of them individually.

We thought about this and our solution was to not provide any statistics about individual players. Instead, we average out the statistics for the table so no individual will be singled out, and you can still find a great table on which to play.

That is definitely a great feature but obviously difficult to do from the web. Right now we are focusing on a quick and easy way for players to find great tables and check the quality of the tables they are currently on.