Obviously. As I said, I haven't looked thru his package, yet, but I certainly will. I was just making my thoughts known, so my offer to use that white deck wasn't misconstrued as me giving permission to any other images that may be in there already.

*Edit:

-cards9 = psthemes prodeck v1
-cards8 = mine very old, and dont look to be ported very well.
-cards7 = mine - v10.8 aka Advertiser v1 also look to have errors in the card faces/edges.

I don't want either cards7 or cards8 included. You should ask Bar Nuthin about his deck you used for cards9.

Anyone?

Hi guys,

I respect your work. But I simply cant understand, why do you post your graphics free for all in a public forum, without a hint to the copyright and without hints who can use them and who not. Sorry, but in my opinion its more than stupid to say: "Dont use my graphics in your freeware tool" but at the same time you publish your graphics without licence information in a public forum free for everyone.

This is like throw money out of the windows and say to the thousands of people who walk on the streets: "Dont touch my money!"

Iam sorry, but I cant understand that. Probably it would be better if I stop post ipSkinner here and have it more prively. -.-

just my little bit frustrated 50 cents.

btw, then I could even integrate a function into ipSkinner which downloads from the web all the graphics if the user starts ipSkinner the first time. Because ALL grahics I integrated can be found via Google, 2+2 or PokerStrategy. If you want me to delete them, fine. But then I will offer the ipSkinner users a function which downloads all graphics automatically. This is so stupid. As we say in germany, Kindergarten.

Hi,

My last red & white BTN is ok :



The big BTN are not working correctly, plus i don't think is it possible to make a transparent jpeg :


Would you like more "small" btn like the red one ?

yes you can post them here. I think I found a way to make them bigger and to integrate them without the mistakes and without the black border into the pokersoftware. greetings

There is no need for a problem here, nor frustration - it is for now simply a curious situation.

I asked (and have not yet heard an answer) why there is a need for bundling all the modified graphics along with your fine program. If something needs to be done (like the files rewitten with a special header / format or some such) then I can kinda see why this would be useful, but for most people it is not going to be a problem to put whatever graphics files they want to use in a place where your app can access them.


People are seemingly getting touchy because by bundling the cards, you are avoiding users from discovering them for themselves via google or what have you, thus stopping the user from perhaps finding other works of the same author, website impressions / ad revenue, or just they aren't getting credit for downloads or whatever reason, IDK... but it seems it should be very easy to fix by not including graphics in the skinner app, and having just a "browse for files" button, no?

Yes of course youre right. But I think its muuuch more comfortable for the users, if there are already a few tables / design integrated in the software, so that the users dont have to look hours for some nice tables. Lets imagine I dont integrate any pics. The user must look for a table, a suitably minitable, cards, seatboxes, dealerbuttons, cardbacks etc. This takes much time. And I tought this kind of application is there for beeing comfortable for the user....

Therefore I tried to find a solution for all sites, for example a entry in the credits for each designer with a link to a website or whatever.

IMO it is you that is acting childish now.

If you found my decks posted for free, they were certainly not posted/uploaded by me, or with my permission. I have NEVER made a deck for iPoker, so there is no way I did it or authorized it. Many of my mods have been ported and/or posted without my permission. I have actually found my installer files that I sold someone, posted for free download on poker forums. Just cuz you found them posted somewhere for free, doesnt mean that I made them, uploaded them, or gave my permission.

I pulled down all my old free images I had posted when i began selling mods last October. In fact that white deck was possibly never posted by me, for free. The 10.8/advertiser deck is another deck I am certain I never posted for free, as it wasnt created til I began selling my mods. Someone copy/pasted my Full Tilt version after purchasing/finding it, to create those, and they did a poor job.

I already said you could use one of my decks (the white vista deck), that was ported properly. Those other 2 decks of mine I mentioned were certainly not made by me, and I would prefer you werent distributing poorly made copies of my originals. If those decks were to be included I would want them to be of proper quality. In fact I have no problem with the old 4-color deck mod of mine being included, if it were a properly ported deck, as that deck was certainly posted free last summer. I dont want you crediting me, for that hack of copy/paste job. If you want to talk to me like an adult, about having me port a 4-color deck to iPoker properly for inclusion with your application, we can do that. I dont see whats so hard to understand about me not wanting 3 of my decks, 2 of which someone else copy/pasted, and are of inferior quality compared to the originals, included in your application.

The problem is, that Iam not really interested in having these trouble with the graphics. I just coded this program, because I needed it and I didnt found one for free. And I have no problem to pay $90 for HM, but $40 for a skinning tool.... no. And I thought it was a nice small tool for iPoker, so I decided to make this public and for free so that other users may use it.

After the core program was done, I started my browser and looked for some files. I took tables and designs I like. Therefore I added them. Iam sorry to hear that some of these graphics are poor copies of your work. And I would be thankful if you want to work more and make a better version for iPoker. This would be great - no question! But I need you guys to understand me: I made this tool free for everyone and I added files which were presented free in the web. I dont know who published them. I dont have time and interest to have some problems with designers. But I understand your point. The only thing Iam interested in is, that the software works and that its useful. For me, and maybe others.

So all of you can download the current version. I will add the two card decks Iam allowed to (the one by fozzy and the one by SantaClaus).

Please send me a PM with information about graphics in ipSkinner you dont want to have in, because these files are yours or if you have any problem with that. Put in a reason please and I will take these graphics out of the public version.

and fozzy, if you want to make a better version then post the file here or send it to pm to me. Thx

@luckyspikes: thx

Guys cool down It can be settled easily
I think I have those 2 decks the simple for sure because I ported that to Ongame months ago with fozzy's approval.
The other I have to look around but I think I have it because I have nearly everything fozzy ever posted.

So if fozzy think I can give it shoot to make justice to those decks.

Dave is right anyway.
Everybody should be able to copy a file from 1 folder to another.
So the inclusion is not really necessary.

i get error... can you help me?

works now, big thanks

some more suggestions :

- option for auto-rebuy (klick ok on the rebuy popup)
- auto-rebuy every x seconds.
- smaller seat graphics and smaller board cards (dunno if possible) or a "shrink" option like, 100% size with scrollbar to say 50% size

hey guys, does anyone know how I can get rid of all this unwanted text and stuff from my layout? It would be great if I could make it disappear!



I'd just like to keep the pot size and current hand at the top left

could you post your dealer btn please ?

I just did it through ibolide. Go into the options and make the dealer button red and a bit bigger. I have no idea how to post it here?sorry!

this means unknown image extension. Please unpack ipSkinner from the zip archive before starting it.

perfect

- would be possible. but we have the fact, that at fixed limit games this is getting strange. But I'll have a look at it
- possible, but I have to look too
-lets have a look :P

The price of my program is such because I have plenty of customers who pay it. Decreasing it would look like checking with nuts on the river...

It is not just "skinning tool". I spent hundreds of hours creating it and I made all graphic work in it myself. My customers pay money for the graphics I created too, but you think you can copy these files, bundle with your own application and distribute as your own. You maybe don't say so, but the users may consider you made artwork yourself.

I know , the basic functionality like in your application can be made very quickly, but that is not all (I see you have problems with dealer button... if you'd know how long it took me to make it to work properly). Would you like me to give my program away for free? Guys, we are all poker players here. Do you want to play poker for playmoney, heh?

-Andrzej

Hi,

as I said, I did not copied these files with the background that these are yours. I copied them, because I thought they were free. Because someone posted them free for everyone. I suggest that you add a small copyright information at all your graphics in the future so avoid such situations. But dont worry, I put your graphics out of the next version. (all other users like fozzy please sent me a PM which files you want me to delete from ipSkinner!).

Btw, the dealer button problem is nearly fixed and bigger cards at smallview arent a huge problem, too. Iam sorry, but I started to creating ipSkinner 5 days ago. Wasnt that much work until now. And I dont think this would be much work in the future.

If you earn so much money with your program, then I cant understand why you dont allow that other users can use these two card decks in a freeware program? But ok, not my chioce.

Ok, I will add a sentence in the next version which says that I have stolen all these not copyrighed graphics so that the users dont have to steal them manually.

Greets

**** those card decks. 80% of people just want a better skin and a nice deck, and you provide both.

edit: and lol_hundreds_of_hours

Hey Op,nice job so far!

It is possible to make a skinner for vista user?

MrSteele
very nice software, than you for making this available.
would it be possible to add an option to stay with the default ipoker cards? I quite like them, but I would like to be able to change everything else.

I already posted in this thread, which decks were mine and my thoughts on it. I guess I dont really care if one or 2 of my 4-color decks are included with that white deck, and I am credited , but I would prefer they were ported properly (by someone like SzS or myself). Hopefully the iPoker people using your application, would want my same decks if they move to FTP/Stars.

Here you go again. Should he sign every card?? I am sure the users would like that. Where would you have someone autograph one of these decks?? There is no extra room, where he could sign, and not have it displayed as part of the mod. Full Tilt decks you can do this, and I am actually just starting to do this now with my new decks.


You have obviously never photoshopped anything in your life. My card mods take me an average of 20 - 30 hours each. My table/seat/background packs for stars/tilt can easily take me over 50 hours. That white 'pipped' deck has ~500 layers, and easily took me 40 or 50 hours to make for stars, and another 30 or 40 hours to make for Full Tilt (even tho I had made it for Stars already). It probably only took SzS an hour to copy/paste the FTP Cards3 to iPoker.