Hi everyone,

I just purchased 17" macbook pro (weeeeee) and about to install Windows 7 through VMware fusion on it. I'll be installing holdem manager then. Thus I wanted to ask you, how should I install PostgreSQL - on Mac OS X or on Windows 7? Any other tips that might be useful to a new mac user are very welcome :P

thanks

You'll get better performance out of Postgres on OSX than virtualized Windows. Also you'll be able to dump the VM down the road easily and not lose any data (since it's all in Postgres)...if you want to rebuild it for some reason.

It would be slightly trickier to configure HEM, Postgres, and VMWare if you require network connectivity between host and VM...only slightly trickier not much.

Personally, I would go with Postgres on OSX...but if you want the easiest install and setup possible then put it on the VM.

My 2c

It's about time! been waitin forever, personally id set the line at 2010 tho, i just can't believe it will be even close to early fall.

u guys are similar to a Blizzard game release..

worth the wait tho, i have poker copilot and it's a stone joke, database filled up in no time, and it has like a max capacity of 150k or 100k hands somethin like that. i mean seriously, that got full in no time.

I'd take you up on that wager (taking the under), for what it's worth.

I wish HEM was compatible with MAC. Using windows on my mac makes me sick..

I use my mac for everything but tracking software. I play on the mac and transfer the hands via flash drive to my old PC that I keep just to run windows only applications. It's a hassle but keeps my mac windows free.

Agreed. I've heard 0% news about HEM on a Mac, but we all know that PT3 is coming, so that's something!

Just letting it be known that I'm another person who's waiting for a Mac version of PT3 or HM. I'm willing to bet there's a lot of other people who are silently waiting as well.

After buying a Mac a few months ago when my Dell PC crashed AGAIN, I'll never go back to windows. Macs are just so much better it's incredible. I've just been playing without a HUD and I guess I'll just continue to do so until something gets released.... so hopefully sooner v later.

this 100% but you really should spend half a day installing boot camp and windows on it, so you can play with hud and everything u're used to. Then your mac will be even better

-.-

Just bought a MacBook and wondered if someone can tell me how to use PokerTracker 3 it. Somebody briefly mentioned about windows virtualisation program - I'm not *that* technical, although I'm OK. If someone could guide me through how to install it (and import my PC PT3 database) I would be very grateful.

Thanks in advance.

There's a Mac installation walkthrough available here.

Thankyou ^^

Ps. DELL computers = FAIL.

Macs = ameezing.

After my DELL burnt out its third battery in 2 years I thought enough was enough.

Oh, it burnt out my Hard drive too. Awesome computers, DELLs.

You may want to check out the poker-copilot thread

I'm so pumped for PT3 on a Mac, just picked one up a few weeks ago.

Any news about PT3?

As I posted earlier in this thread, we're working towards a Fall release - I don't have anything more accurate than that at the moment.

I had switched to HEM before getting a MAC....now it looks like I am going to have to switch back to PT3 cause i hate running windows on my MAC. Its annoyed me so much that I havent uploaded a single hand to it since March ggrrrrrrrrr Please hurry!!!!

Can anyone help me find a poker tracking software that is compatible with Macs.

Software Forum > Search This Forum > 'Mac'

One or all of the first 3 results should answer your questions.

I don't recall what language PT3 is developed in, but HEM is written in C#, and I'm surprised HEM doesn't have something in the works for both Mac and Linux using Mono. Other than the HUD there's nothing really GUI or graphically challenging to a poker tracker -- it's almost entirely number crunching and DB work, which are easily portable between platforms. And even fpdb has a HUD working on Linux now.

And I can't help but LOL at the Mac fanboys -- that's one argument that will never rest. Look, they all serve a purpose. Mac tends to attract the PC-illiterate or non-techies more than any other, because they're just more consumer-friendly (less like a computer, more like an appliance), but they are certainly not more capable than Windows and Linux (in fact I'd probably say less so). As a software developer of 20+ years, I own Windows, Linux, and Mac machines -- my home office has 8 computers within reach (3 Windows, 4 Linux, and 1 Mac) -- and FWIW the Mac is only used for iPhone development. Apple makes some sexy hardware, sure, but aside from on the iPhone, OSX is the least favorite OS of all the platforms I work on. Personally I'd rather use even Vista, but then again I know how to tune it and make it work very well for me.

[X.] Windows enthusiast!

If you're implying by "enthusiast" that I'm a Windows fanboy, you'd be grossly incorrect. If not, and you're just describing yourself, then fine and ignore this response.

OTOH if that was your assertion, then I'd have to ask: did you read and comprehend my post? My career over the last 25 years has been based on supporting the OS(es) of the time, so I think I'm at least qualified to present an objective opinion, unlike most of the rabid OS bashers/fanboys. I've used every version of Windows since v1, and pretty much every version of DOS before that. CP/M before that. Various flavors of Unix, Linux, and BSD. VMS. zOS & OS/390. OS/2. OSX. And a variety of embedded OSes. The only significant one that I can't claim much experience with is pre-OSX MacOS. As I said, they all have their pros and cons, serving different target audiences, and I just find it comical to see it become a religious debate among some people. And frankly it seems to be much worse among Apple fans (with Linux fans a close 2nd).

For the most part I despise Microsoft as a company, and ironically enough I respect Apple a lot more. I just don't care for Apple's OS (outside of the iPhone). I really thought I would, with it being BSD-based, but the pretty-yet-restrictive candy-coated shell really hinders productivity IMO. Yes, I can operate from the terminal console, but then what does OSX give me over much cheaper and more powerful *nix options? I don't consider myself a "bigot" or fanboy of any OS really, but if I had to to choose a single preference, I guess it would be Linux. But the fact remains I get a lot more "real work," not to mention entertainment, done with Vista and Windows 7 than I do with OSX. And the very existence of this thread should give you an indication as to why that is.

YMMV, obviously, which is my whole point.

Although I'm a common consumer and def not a techie, I can tune up Vista to work properly and I can install Windows 7 on Mac to work even better than it would on a PC. No problem for either of this, you just have to google for 5 minutes and you don't have to have a 25 years of OS support experience. I've used vista for 4 years (or whatever), never had problems with it but 2 months ago I switched to Mac, cause I like nice design and I like changes. A week ago I've installed new Snow Leopard OS. FWIW I've never seen OS as fast as this one. It's a shame I have to reboot every single time to bootcamp partition to play teh pokerz, because it's like going back to Stone Age right after Star Wars era or something.

I don't know, why Mac OS is your least favourite OS, it probably has something to do with programming or your techie stuff, but for a ordinary consumer like myself Mac OS is bazillion times better than windows, and I repeat, I've never had any problems with vindows vista for the last 3 or 4 years, i've been using it.

@Veteran68...

People become "OS X fanboys" because they were fed up with Windows and all its problems and bought a Mac and suddenly they had a system "just working".

When family, friends, and family of friends come to me asking me for help for their "PC doesn't work correctly / is too slow / is behaving strangely" I always tell them "next time buy a Mac and things shall just work".

And they do.

And things just work.

And there's no going back to Windows for these people.

A lot of people who've tried OS X are very happy with it. You cannot say the same about Windows.

That's why you have that 'fanboyism' you seem to not like.

They like OS X because it transforms their "PC" into an appliance? More power to them. That's how it should be.

Let these people surf the net, do their email, play poker online without having to worry about "re-imaging" their Windows OS for it has turned into a zombie part of a botnet.

And you know what? Thanks to all these fanboys the word is spread. I'm directly responsible for at least seven direct Mac purchase around me (brothers, sisters-in law, mother, etc.). Then these people in turn convert other people to Mac (one of my sister-in-law just bought a Mac too

The funny thing ? I'm not that much of an OS X user. I'm spending most my time working on a 'real' Un*x workstation to do my work. I have a Mac for Skype / audio / video / PokerStars that said.

Why did I make all these people buy Macs ? Because there are more interesting thing to do for me than being a "PC-litterate / Windows-techie" spending my time fixing all these broken Windows PCs and there are more interesting things to do for these people than learning to become a "Windows-techie".

You have Mac fanboyism for the very reason you'll never have Windows-fanboyism : Apple makes quality product that look good and that work as expected (and that keep working as expected).


How much of a techie are you to make such a blatantly stupid comment? Apparently you're really more of a CP/M / MS-DOS / Windows background than an Un*x one. So let me enlighten you: OS X supports various shells, including csh, bash and zsh, just like any other Un*x flavor. You're probably confused about what a shell is and what OS X's default Terminal application does. In which case I suggest reading on the subject.

Last timed I used a shell on OS X was through SSH, from a Un*x workstation. How's that "pretty-yet-restrictive candy-coated"?

Once again, you stated:

Well, IMO, your opinion is blatantly stupid and you hardly know what you're talking about.

Oh, and if you have issues with the default Terminal app for OS X you'll be glad to know that there are many others avaible (either native for OS X or for X Window System, which btw works fine on OS X too... If you happen to know what X is that is...).

For a 'veteran' that tries to snob people by listing technologies, you seem to be pretty clueless.

And maybe we'll refrain from commenting on the attitude consisting in coming to a thread title "... tracker for Mac" calling names on "fanboys" and telling that: Seriously dude, WTF!?

You're not a Windows fanboy but you "get a lot more 'real work' done with Vista and Windows 7? How's that for Windows-fanboyism trollery?

Regarding the "very existence of this thread"... So the fact that a C++ tracker and a C# tracker have not been ported to OS X is supposed to be an indication as to why people like you get more "real work" done on Windows?

I'm sorry but you're a complete arse and we've been to school on different planets.

This discussion is over for me but thanks for the good laugh regarding the eye-candyness of the shell. You're so clueless it's funny