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08-25-2020 , 10:17 AM
9 handed
5/5

UTG+1 (800) limps, I (1700)limp KK23T, MP(800) limp, btn(700) limp, blinds check.

(30)
QJ8
UTG+1 checks, I check, MP bets 20, btn calls, UTG+1 calls, I call.

(110)
A
UTG+1 checks, I bet 110, MP calls, btn calls, UTG+1 calls.

(550)
2

UTG+1 checks...

What would you do?

Should I pot to bluff a low or is it too likely that someone has KT too?
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08-25-2020 , 12:28 PM
The quick answer is there is no right answer...and it's very player and game dependent.

In my home game, for example, someone with broadway will raise 100% of the time...no one is just calling or checking here on the turn. So I would feel fine potting it on the river to try and get everyone to fold.

Sometimes you'll check, it will get checked around and you'll split with a garbage low that would have folded.

Othertimes, you'll bet, get raised, and lose a bunch when you get quartered.

Or even worse, sometimes you'll bet and get raised...and the raiser doesn't even realize he has a low to go with his KT until he tables his hand and another player makes the read!
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08-25-2020 , 01:02 PM
With no clubs, no pairs from the board (except river), having a three, two kings... Simply a perfect candidate to bet.
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08-25-2020 , 03:32 PM
I like betting in the 1/3 to 1/2 territory - think it is unlikely everyone folds so we might as well make the pricing attractive so more than one lo call incorrectly.

Also a smaller sizing might encourage some los to jam, which we don't mind either in a multi-way scenario.
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08-26-2020 , 12:13 AM
I don't really understand the point of betting small river.
I think it's better to fold out a low than trying to get value from a set.
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08-26-2020 , 12:14 AM
Are we trying to be called by 2 low hands?
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08-26-2020 , 12:28 AM
Yes, sizing to increase the odds of 2+ callers seems best since it is unlikely everyone will fold. Players should also be able to infer hero mostly has ktxxx with some kind of redraw from his turn line and heavily discount nut/nut both ways.

With supporting player reads pot to max fold-equity could be ok, i just think we should start by acknowledging that getting all 4 players to fold seems unlikely and go from there.
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08-26-2020 , 01:19 AM
i'm potting river all day

villains have to literally have 34 to feel remotely calling PSB. anything else, they might feel is suicidal.

getting folds from a low makes you soooooooooooo much money here. and you get looked up by non-believers sometimes for high side anyway.
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