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12-01-2017 , 04:06 PM

WinPot247

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 5

235$ O8 tournament
4th round
300$-600$ blinds
Hero has about 8,000
Villian is loose & has abt 15000

3 limp
Hero in SB raises w A234
Bb folds
Villian calls
Others fold (2100 in pot)
2 to the flop

FLOP: AA2

Hero bets, Villan raises, hero reriases, Villan calls (3900 in pot)

TURN: K

Hero checks, Villan bets, hero calls (5100 in pot)

RIVER: 9

Hero checks, villain bets (5700), hero should pay him off? save the ammo?
Post flop reraise standard or out of line? Any missteps?

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12-01-2017 , 07:05 PM

Galfondstyle

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 103

you invested already enough, I would pay the last bet at this point.

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12-01-2017 , 09:49 PM

kl352

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 264

why are you asking if the post flop reraise was out of line? you flopped the stone cold nut hi. and the nut low draw.

i would have bet called the turn. but as played, check-call river. by checking the turn, you pretty much have to call down. sucks if he has AK. too much in pot

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12-01-2017 , 11:06 PM

ninefingershuffle

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,543

Bet the turn

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12-03-2017 , 12:15 PM

e1cnr

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,008

I am having a hard time following binds and pot size - after preflop, the pot is different than what I calculate.

Have you seen the loose villain bet people off of pots before?

Would the river call put you out? and do you still have over $5K if you fold?

Without having seen the villian play, I put their hand at over 80% AK and I would fold because it would leave you decimated/out if they had it.

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12-03-2017 , 01:04 PM

NickMPK

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 11,567

The preflop play in the hand by the field is bizarre.

Beyond that, this just seem like a thinly veiled bad beat story. How are you seriously asking whether your postflop raise is out of line??

BTW, hero has put 2100 in on the turn. He will have 5900 left if he folds, 5300 if he calls and loses, and 11600 if he calls and wins.

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12-03-2017 , 01:17 PM

NickMPK

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 11,567

One final thing worth mentioning that demands calling down is that you have seriously underrepped your hand on the turn. Once you check, villain knows he can safely bet A2 himself. He might even value bet a worse A, especially one that has some backup. So I don't even think your hand is a pure bluff catcher.

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12-03-2017 , 09:10 PM

monikrazy

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 28,046

Hero can only fold river playing an exploitative strategy for villain

With the line hero has taken villain might misread hero's holding as an unpaired ace, maybe 34xx playing a lo draw agressively and value bet something like aq35

Maybe villain even shares the same a2?

There are maybe some theoretical merits to overfolding this river because it is a tournament and not cash but with the line taken hero really should not be folding this river

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12-04-2017 , 04:43 AM

billygstar

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 6,115

Bet turn
If you bet the turn and were raised then I guess maybe can find a river fold unless villain pretty loose. But not in a million years can you c/f river after c/c`ing turn.

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