There is nothing to see

yes that what i mean after this weekend we know how new weekend schedule is right ?

pretty bad 320 now highest also for whole o8 community is bad. 2 days ago the wednesday 530 4 pl card got lot of people and even guys like Isildur1 and illiari FIN (he won btw) joins.
if we as o8 community can get this kind of leggends to the game it will for sure attract way more people. i think this kind of players will definitly not play less then 500$ bi.

hope people can work together here with plan to get an highstake o8 mtt on stars (best on wednesday imo

Everything also seems to be re-entry (3 times) which personally I think is an excellent step forwards for grinders. Lack of volume on low stakes MTT's has always been a major problem and stars have pretty much nailed that with this new schedule.

Its actually a hugely +ev change for people that play high volume low-midstakes (and all the games). My only complaint is the removal of the 82 weeklys and the 55 saturdays. I can def see how people who play less tables and higher buyins would be frustrated though.

Correction - PSKO's and rebuys are not re-entry and neither are the Omania's which have the weird '3 stack' instead. I don't see why KO's shouldn't be (although re -entering would carry much less value than in a non KO format unless in the first few levels)

Agree with this, but I think we can get them to put them back in, they definitely have a place in the schedule on merit

RIP nightly back to back 55 hypers...you will be missed

sched looks good for mtt grinders minus the removal of the weekend weeklies but the non peak hour sched is pretty horrible

Even if they put back the weekend schedule would be still a huge disappointment. Everybody was begging for a 215 nlo8 psko and a 215 hyper in the ps mtt thread and not only they dont give a **** but give that nonsene weekend schedule with one o8 mtt into our face.

That feels like they have made the end for the profitable history of near 10 years O8 tournaments that I have played in FT and PT.

I think is severely limiting and I would liked to play different kind of tournaments.

Maybe it's reasonable for the PLO, but certainly not for 08.

Yeah, the new schedule change at the weekends unfortunately is ****ing awful. Such a massive shame that they get rid of all of the weekly O8s, both FL and NL/PL.
And then not even put the new "Sunday special" tourns in red or bold or anything. So they will probably get quite a lot lower guarantees and smaller fields than they otherwise would.
How and why do you think that we can get them put back in? Seriously, I'm up for whatever, getting a petition together etc. Including for all the other mixed game tournaments that they've ruined on weekends.
But I'm doubtful/skeptical that it will go back, as they have been pretty reluctant to change things, and particularly reluctant in going back on anything that they've recently changed.

Ya personally having everything 6 max works for me because I've played far more 6 max poker than 9 max and also enjoy it more but I can see how some MTT regs would be annoyed by this change as its probably going to make multi tabling a bit more difficult.

You are referring to the lack of higher stakes tournies?

For low stakes it is a huge improvement. Higher guarantees, re-entries, and even more tournies overall means I won't have to sit here in Asia playing one tiny tournament for 4 hours just so I can win $91.28 lol


On a separate note I agree RIP 9-man tournies. I mean at least throw a few in just for variety.

I don't how it will go money wise, but the truth is that over 80 % of MTTs in my range and european timezone (omania 16$, 13,50 KO etc) were 9 handed and only one 27$ KO and 22 $ was 6 handed.

And as you said, the multitabling will be more problematic. So they have changed most of the MTTs without testing...

Ya after the 55$ nlo8 turbo there is not another O8 mtt over 27$ for the next 14 hours which is when I am usually playing

The slot that used to have the $27 Omania, $27 PKO, $7.50 1r1a hyper, $27 hyper, etc is now totally raped. I wouldn't consider that high stakes, was definitely a decent buyin level for the low and medium stake players. Now it's the $27 PKO with a bunch of >$10 games.

I don't think the re-entries will do that much for the prizepool, your $91.28 might be $150 now, which still shouldn't excite you.

This is simply disgusting!

R.I.P. $530 high stakes PL
R.I.P. $215 Weekly FL,PL,NL
R.I.P. $82 Weekly Fl,PL,NL
R.I.P. Saturday $55 PLO8
R.I.P. Afternoon $82 NLO8 Hyper
R.I.P. Nightly $55 NLO8 Hypers (2x)
R.I.P. Daily FLO8
R.I.P. (almost) ALL Afternoon/Nightly Mid Stakes

wtf this is disgusting

Right, but there are more low-stakes tournies overall during this time (or at least more that I would actually consider playing).



Honestly I also wish they would not do away with the higher buy-ins. If I had the roll for these I would be quite disappointed.

The new structure seem to be just money grabbing plan by the Pokerstars.

Most tournaments seem to have 3*rebuy. With 6 handed and faster structures the rake just keeps pouring for the Pokerstars.

So one 11 $ tournament can actually be 4 tourments with 4 rakes and total buying for 44 $.

In reality rebuys make tournaments much more expensive than their initial buyin, so the effective buy in level has gone up from the roof.

And playing 6 handed MTT with 3 rebuys is much more intensive than 9 handed old tournaments, so multitabling require huge concentration - no net browsing and TV while you play.

It's like you are you are playing totally different game now.

And in the 2$ + unlimited rebuy splash tourments the starting level is now 80/40 with ante, so the tournament is even more of the crapshoot compared to older and much slower structure. So more rake for the Pokerstars.

Who's benefitting?

Propably best regs in short term, as effective stakes are higher and with the rebuys effective number of games have multiplied.

agreed, wtf are stars thinking, bring back the old schedule!

Wow, that's disgusting. First level after the addon is 5k/10k now...unreal

Disagree with the above about re-entries. The effective buyin only goes up if you choose to use this option. If you bust, just don't re-enter and wait for the next tournament. There's a lot more playable games now during peak time.

Just played a session (actually still in a PKO in the money ) and have a few more observations.

The re-entries include a fee, but you don't get more VPPs. Am I reading that wrong??

As Jytky just mentioned, all the 6-max is getting a little crazy. Probably great for guys who play lots of hypers, but an adjustment for some.

Some of the micro buy-ins still are not worth anyone's time. Broken Jia had a nice point here. It seems they have adjusted the payout spots a little, but I would still like to see fewer players paid, like ~10% of the field. Paying 15-20% plays into Stars' rake-grab. A bunch of us asked about this in the MTT rep thread.

what for real? that just scam

I am almost certain you do get the vpps after u bust of course.

^^Ok yeah hopefully, I might have misread something. Also it just seemed like something Pokerstars would do these days...