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Originally Posted by agamblerthen
Crush Live Poker has over 50 videos labeled "Crush Live O8 Poker," including one that analyzes a heads-up session and at least one that analyzes a short-handed session.
His (Bart Hanson's) approach is to provide commentary on a filmed session (some live, some online). Several years ago I watched his video on how to read the low and was appalled by the number of mistakes he made reading the low—like saying a particular hand was the fourth-best low when it was actually sixth best, or listing all the better low hands on a particular board and omitting one.
His analysis is often similar to the Omaha commentary I've seen on livestreams, in which commentators struggle to read all the hands accurately and make sense of multiway action in real time. Even with hole cards shown, they misperceive how many outs someone has or mis-state pot odds.
I'd be interested to hear if others have found these videos useful.
I'll level with you, my knee jerk reaction was also that Bart might not be the person to learn o8 from. I'm a little glad that I was late to the discussion bc I mightve said some of the things you've said.
After reading I'll say briefly
a) as a semi seasoned player (idk, but semi regularly for around 10 years) when I think about it even playing a single omaha hand without missing details can be extremely difficult, so sorting through a mess of 15+ cards has to be tougher than it might seem on the surface.
b) Bart's credentials actually seem pretty damn strong, albeit not immediately apparent to the layman (me 4 seconds ago)
c) God damn as someone who's tried extensively to study o8 and found increasingly that it's basically 03 again and you're on your own to really just form your own ideas through playing/crunching/watching the best players. anything much above 'don't play A489 cause it's bad' drool stuff has to be worth the price of admission.
idk, might sub and poke my head around despite BH's clever not shill level
***also God damn Chianti mixed with autocorrect is a terrible combination for an already stupid person not to seem stupid on here. I tried to clean it up, but I'm too busy now in case I missed something else