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Possible Russian ring detected? Possible Russian ring detected?

03-17-2018 , 08:07 PM
If u guys are playing any final tables on stars (or like final 18)
Can u try to chek 'find this player option' and see if they are playing the same mtt's.

Today i have found out that nitty Russian regs tend to have this option on.
And that these 2 were on the same final table, and it was the only table for BOOTH of them.

2 players at one final table (5card 08)(went through all the hands didn't see any sort of chipdumping, but I didn't see any aggression or battle between the 2)

In the 91 hands played they played a total of 4 hands together
39 hands of those were 4 handed, russian 1 was SB, and russian 2 was BB
2ce Russian1 folded his small blind to Russian2
1ce Russian 1 minraised russian2 calls flop comes QKQ R1 raises half the pot, and BB folds.
and this hand:

4 handed blinds 2k-4k
Russian 2 (utg) Limps with a 103k stack
Hero (button)folds
Decent reg (sb) completes his sb
Russian 1 cheks with a 149k stack


Flop comes JT2 (12.000)
SB cheks, Russian1(bb) leads out 6000 Russian2(utg) calls Decentreg(sb) Folds.
Turn comes JT26 (24000)
CHEK CHEK
River comes JT265 (24000)
CHEK CHEK
Russian 1 shows: jj556
Russian 2 shows: aa8qj


It doesn't feel like it was collusion but it was just weird.
Would like to ask the others to pay more attention to russians playing softer/weirder.

Russian 1 has 12k games played and is on a huge upswing in the last 4k games.
My notes on him are: if he has it(the nut high, or the nut low) he will pot it. He did try to gamble a few times preflop on that table.
Russian 2 has 3k games played and has his sharkscope blocked.
My notes on him are: was very scared, and only value bets NUT NUT, tries to bait others to bet the river on low boards.

TLDR
Russians have SEARCH option on!
Booth are one tabling a final table!
Russian one is a well known reg
Semi softplay

Last edited by belg_owner; 03-17-2018 at 08:26 PM.
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03-18-2018 , 07:29 AM
I'll be happy when UK join the Spain/Italy/Port/France pool and get away from these cheating ****s.

Name the reg pls or pm me but don't feel shy about naming him here. Russian colluders have already been caught in the past. Hence the refunds.
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03-18-2018 , 08:57 AM
reg one was [removed per OP request]
russian 2 was [removed per OP request]

stars response:
Depending on our findings, the players may be contacted and asked to explain relationships and/or play. In such cases where this is necessary, the entire process generally takes 7 to 10 days, but can be delayed if we do not receive prompt responses.

Last edited by niss; 03-18-2018 at 11:46 AM. Reason: see above
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03-18-2018 , 09:08 AM
I cant be making this **** up!
I just cant lol
https://gyazo.com/563b3840c0a68dc52ca2f1365802a8f3

4 russians had it turned off.
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03-18-2018 , 09:09 AM
https://imgur.com/a/rRN2M



Contacted stars AGAIN in 2 days.

^These are all russians

Last edited by belg_owner; 03-18-2018 at 09:22 AM.
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03-18-2018 , 09:44 AM


ALL HAVE OPTED OUT FROM SHARKSCOPE
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03-18-2018 , 10:03 AM




Last edited by belg_owner; 03-18-2018 at 10:15 AM.
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03-18-2018 , 10:22 AM
Ok stars, has confirmed that the first 2 weren't cheating or colluding at all.
Have hardly any mtt's played together and live 350 km apart from each other.
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03-18-2018 , 11:13 AM
I hope you understand that we cannot suspects players of cheating just because they are from the same country?

I have quickly checked players 'Apogey Andy', 'aismail1959', 'KUDESNIK360', 'Aleks489' & 'chessvaska' and didn't find anything suspicious.

To properly investigate a collusion report, we require as much information as possible about the circumstances of the alleged offence.

Please always include the Stars IDs of the players involved, copies of suspiciously played hand histories (or at least hand IDs), copied and pasted samples of suspicious chat.

Please also be aware that we operate a number of highly sophisticated collusion detection tools. These tools are both proactive and automatic, and are likely to detect such players who are trying to break the rules on our tables. Consequently, if you are unable to provide additional information at this time, colluding players are likely to be caught anyway.

Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.

Regards,
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03-22-2018 , 09:54 AM
CPPOR
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03-23-2018 , 02:25 PM
    Poker Stars, $25.71 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 1,000 ante) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    BB: 43,664 (10.9 bb)
    MP: 64,110 (16 bb)
    Hero (CO): 69,226 (17.3 bb)
    BTN: 111,126 (27.8 bb)
    SB: 151,294 (37.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 3 A 8
    MP folds, Hero raises to 68,226 and is all-in, BTN folds, SB raises to 150,294 and is all-in, BB folds

    Flop: (145,452) J 7 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: (145,452) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (145,452) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 145,452 pot
    Final Board: J 7 3 9 Q
    Hero showed 9 3 A 8 and lost (-69,226 net)
    SB showed 4 Q Q T and won 145,452 (76,226 net)


    another dodgy Russian.

    hes winning hugely yet makes calls like this like prolly the dumb fk he is.



    LordAgrael
    PokerStars
    Omaha H/L

    17,897
    $1.96
    $16.65
    18.5%
    $35,073


    obv Cpl other Russians still in there.

    Disgusting.

    This was the 27 KO prog ht 5k

    This was with 9 left from 244...disgraceful.

    He's **** horrid too so no idea how he has these stats unless hes cheating.. yawn

    Last edited by billygstar; 03-23-2018 at 02:29 PM. Reason: cheating scumbags
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    03-23-2018 , 02:32 PM
      Poker Stars, $25.71 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 1,000 ante) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      konsti56 (BB): 43,664 (10.9 bb)
      V1ch8 (MP): 64,110 (16 bb)
      Hero (CO): 69,226 (17.3 bb)
      Capote18 (BTN): 111,126 (27.8 bb)
      LordAgrael (SB): 151,294 (37.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 3 A 8
      V1ch8 folds, Hero raises to 68,226 and is all-in, Capote18 folds, LordAgrael raises to 150,294 and is all-in, konsti56 folds

      Flop: (145,452) J 7 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      Turn: (145,452) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: (145,452) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: 145,452 pot
      Final Board: J 7 3 9 Q
      Hero showed 9 3 A 8 and lost (-69,226 net)
      LordAgrael showed 4 Q Q T and won 145,452 (76,226 net)
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      03-23-2018 , 02:32 PM
      3 of em russian
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      03-23-2018 , 10:32 PM
      i do have Lordagreal also tagged as a 'wider' player
      Bounty might be in play here.
      And he has his sharkscope opted in
      (has 22k games played, and i dont think he has his search option on)
      V1ch8
      Has 6k games played and also has his sharkscope opted in.

      Havent seen any of these 'teams' above 5$ mtt's
      Will post more names tomorow BUT i havent found any sort of chipdumping or player protection or even simular stats from those players.

      HOWEVER
      - They all have a very high mtt volume 5-10k+
      - Search option on
      - One tabling
      - Sharkscope HIDDEN
      - they are one tabling freaking 2-4$ mtt's (in 2018)
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