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Old 12-23-2011, 01:23 PM   #1
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Diamond PLO8 Stats Checkup



Here's the things I see...

1) I need to look at my BB play as that's my worst position. Seems like maybe I'm calling raises too often and possibly playing too aggressively postflop even when I check my option. I should probably also 3-bet less from the blinds although it's hard to say what effective stacksizes were from this report.

2) I can probably be a bit more aggressive in LP.

BB play is the biggest thing, IMO, but if anyone sees anything else, please to be letting me know.

Thanks!

Also, once comments from my stats dies down, someone else is free to post theirs for feedback and this can continue as an oft-bumped stats thread.
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Old 12-23-2011, 01:57 PM   #2
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Re: PLO8 Stats Checkup

as it seems i'm the first to comment, i'll add the obligatory --sample size is still small enough that a single hand in any postion is enough to skew the data.

with that said, i'd say stats indicate that work on profiting more from the btn will increase your winnings more then concerning yourself with your blind play.
although your c-bet % from blinds are curious to me.
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Old 12-23-2011, 02:12 PM   #3
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Re: PLO8 Stats Checkup

don't let this derail the thread if the discussion gets going...but,

what is an preflop raise unopened pot (UO pfr) from the bb??
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Old 12-23-2011, 04:10 PM   #4
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Re: PLO8 Stats Checkup

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Here's the things I see...

1) I need to look at my BB play as that's my worst position. Seems like maybe I'm calling raises too often and possibly playing too aggressively postflop even when I check my option. I should probably also 3-bet less from the blinds although it's hard to say what effective stacksizes were from this report.

2) I can probably be a bit more aggressive in LP.

BB play is the biggest thing, IMO, but if anyone sees anything else, please to be letting me know.

Thanks!

Also, once comments from my stats dies down, someone else is free to post theirs for feedback and this can continue as an oft-bumped stats thread.
Fold from the SB more. You're playing 20% of your hands, and the small discount you get to see the flop is more than negated by being OOP the whole hand.
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Old 12-23-2011, 07:10 PM   #5
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Re: PLO8 Stats Checkup

I'll add more later after I look at it some more, have to re-download hm to compare. Ur BB is just atrocious from first glance everything else looks solid though.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:02 PM   #6
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Re: PLO8 Stats Checkup

BB is everyone's worst position, obv.

Only solution is to play fewer hands, and when you do play 3b more, at least when you think you can get away with it.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:12 PM   #7
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Re: PLO8 Stats Checkup

Ur button PFR and raise should be significantly higher than any other position. I think u can 3b a good biT more. Again u can 3b much more liberally from BTN and co.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:21 PM   #8
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I think you are too tight in the BB. Super tight. Defend your BB when heads up with a wide range.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:26 PM   #9
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In your non-blind positions, your positional awareness is insufficient especially for full ring.

I'd try to have VPIP/PFR on the button be two to three times the VPIP and PFR from EP. To do this with your stats you could play 10/9 from EP and 30/27 from the button and adjust the positions in between.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:28 PM   #10
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don't let this derail the thread if the discussion gets going...but,

what is an preflop raise unopened pot (UO pfr) from the bb??
Maybe when someone posts a BB from the CO or another position as a missed blind or new player and checks it then it's an unopened pot and you can raise from the BB.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:31 PM   #11
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BB is everyone's worst position, obv.

Only solution is to play fewer hands, and when you do play 3b more, at least when you think you can get away with it.
It's possible to be too tight from the BB. If you fold every BB, then your win rate will be -100/100 in that position.

Saying it's the 'only' solution is ignoring the specific case here. I think he is playing very tight from BB and could defend it better.

Personally, my BB win rate is better than my SB win rate.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:50 PM   #12
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It's possible to be too tight from the BB. If you fold every BB, then your win rate will be -100/100 in that position.

Saying it's the 'only' solution is ignoring the specific case here. I think he is playing very tight from BB and could defend it better.

Personally, my BB win rate is better than my SB win rate.
I could see where this is right.

Any idea why your BB win rate is better than your SB?
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:09 PM   #13
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I could see where this is right.

Any idea why your BB win rate is better than your SB?
Might not work at all stakes, but I raise limps aggressively, especially SB limps. I squeeze and play big pots against people whose ranges are not strong. I make min raises sometimes in limped pots. I don't think it's anything I could definitely pinpoint, and I can improve my play from the SB.

This years at my stakes with 3 to 6 players I have bb/100 and ev bb/100 at

SB: -23.8 and -23.0
BB: -24.3 and -18.3

I'm sure better numbers are possible.
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:57 AM   #14
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BB is everyone's worst position, obv.

Only solution is to play fewer hands, and when you do play 3b more, at least when you think you can get away with it.
there are a lot more solutions than just playing tighter or 3 betting more imo. A lot of different styles will work, it comes down to playing well.

-67bb/100 from the bb, there is more going on there. I think between -20 to -35 is a good area to shoot for.

Mine is

-16.8bb/100 sb
-25.9bb/100 bb

There are quite a few threads about this exact thing here. You obviously don't have a great sample size for one specific position, if you lost some massive pots on coolers there it might not be that big of a deal.

Also agree with bw that u could be doing better in CO/BTN
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Old 12-24-2011, 04:09 AM   #15
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Re: PLO8 Stats Checkup

exept for bb loss which looks really high, my AF at the turn is higher and my overall AF is also higher.
but since u just started playing PLO8 your stats look pretty good to me.
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I have no stats to post just bumping this hoping someone posts theirs
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