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11-08-2017 , 07:32 PM
0.02/0.05 on ACR:
6 handed
Here are all my notes on the players and their stack sizes.
UTG 3.96 "Very loose pre idiot"
UTG +1 3.39 "Aggro w/ wrap on flush board"
CO 6.87 Didn't have a note on him at this time
Button 2.49 Didn't have a note on him at this time
SB 3.71 "Extremely loose calldown post"
Hero 4.95

Most everyone is very loose. It's a penny/nickel game after all.

Hero has 5 8 A J

UTG folds, UTG+1 minraises to 0.10. CO Button call, SB fold, Hero calls

I think at the time I didn't notice he raised since it was a minraise. Not sure if it really matters.

Pot 0.42

4 ways to the flop

Flop:
5 3 6

Hero pots 0.40 everyone calls.

Turn 2.02
3

Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets 1.92. Button all-in for 1.99

Hero?
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11-08-2017 , 08:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZockenRobot
0.02/0.05 on ACR:
6 handed
Here are all my notes on the players and their stack sizes.
UTG 3.96 "Very loose pre idiot"
UTG +1 3.39 "Aggro w/ wrap on flush board"
CO 6.87 Didn't have a note on him at this time
Button 2.49 Didn't have a note on him at this time
SB 3.71 "Extremely loose calldown post"
Hero 4.95

Most everyone is very loose. It's a penny/nickel game after all.

Hero has 5PLO8 Nut flush, board pairs on turn: 8PLO8 Nut flush, board pairs on turn APLO8 Nut flush, board pairs on turn JPLO8 Nut flush, board pairs on turn

UTG folds, UTG+1 minraises to 0.10. CO Button call, SB fold, Hero calls

I think at the time I didn't notice he raised since it was a minraise. Not sure if it really matters.

Pot 0.42

4 ways to the flop

Flop:
5PLO8 Nut flush, board pairs on turn 3PLO8 Nut flush, board pairs on turn 6PLO8 Nut flush, board pairs on turn

Hero pots 0.40 everyone calls.

Turn 2.02
3PLO8 Nut flush, board pairs on turn:

Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets 1.92. Button all-in for 1.99

Hero?
Too likely they have low hands with worse highs. If that is true and your flush holds up on the river you get 150% of what you put in back, plus half of the rest of the pot.

Don't fold!



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11-09-2017 , 12:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LUCIUS VARENUS
Too likely they have low hands with worse highs. If that is true and your flush holds up on the river you get 150% of what you put in back, plus half of the rest of the pot.

Don't fold!



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So you're laying to 2 to 1, but is it >66% likely that a) your flush is good and b) your hand will hold up? IMO yes.
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11-09-2017 , 03:08 AM
A very clear fold for me.

Their ranges would need to be extremely wide in order for our high hand to be good +50% of the time by the river. If we had only 1 pot sized bet left OTT it'd be closer (still a fold imo though 4-way), but with SPR 2 vs CO I don't think it's even close.
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11-09-2017 , 09:50 PM
Hero folds
CO shows A2 no high
Button shows Queen high flush no low

gg

Thanks for the feedback
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11-10-2017 , 09:17 AM
Standard fold as played, prefer to start with a check over a pot-sized bet
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11-12-2017 , 04:41 AM
Why would I check? Look how loose these people are, the whole table called me.
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11-13-2017 , 10:47 AM
I'd also always start with a check there, simply because UTG+1 will do a lot of the betting for you. Anyway, since they seem to call with weak hands, betting is fine of course.
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11-21-2017 , 12:04 PM
its a call only you can make being at the table. in most games it is tossing money away to call. and also to play that hand in the first place oop.
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11-23-2017 , 10:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray Zee
its a call only you can make being at the table. in most games it is tossing money away to call. and also to play that hand in the first place oop.


My experience at micro/small stakes lines up with the advice given by Ray Zee here, fwiw.
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11-23-2017 , 11:27 AM
I feel like I am being a parrot but folding this pre I even more ridiculous than the hand in another thread
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11-24-2017 , 09:51 PM
I have read all the answers and think they give good advice.
Here is what I would do (having in mind, that I play these "wild/loose penny & nickel games" all the time):

Pre: I play any suited Ace, when the game is wild like here. Even though, I have to get away from them plenty, the times we flush over flush somebody or people go crazy with straights/lowdraws more than make up for it.

Flop:
Check/Call or Check/Raise depending on how many people call after whoever bets first.
This board has a possible low.
Usually somebody will pot his low and then all the other nutlows, nutlowdraws, sets and flushes are going to call or even repot it, in which case we happily getin as much as possible with as many players as possible.
Rarely will everybody else fold, which is also nice, after all, we could be freerolled by some sets and two pairs.
If nobody bets, everybody would have folded to your bet anyways and will probably fold on the turn.
Checking also has the advantage, that some players think "my straight may be good, after all nobody did bet his flush" (looking at you UTG +1).

Turn: I think, as played this is very tough. Without any additional reads on the CO/BTN, this is a fold for me. (We also have 3 hearts thus blocking some other flushes) If we hadn't so much left with the CO, I'd call.

Last edited by Caterina; 11-24-2017 at 10:03 PM.
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