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PLO8 MTT - FT vs. a UTG Limp and a Raise PLO8 MTT - FT vs. a UTG Limp and a Raise

09-10-2011 , 08:04 PM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
Hi-Lo Omaha $2,500(BB) Replayer
Hero ($21,790)
BB ($28,612)
UTG ($12,735)
UTG+1 ($20,209)
UTG+2 ($71,945)
CO ($67,550)
BTN ($36,659)

Dealt to Hero Q Q A 4

UTG calls $2,500, fold, UTG+2 raises to $8,334, fold, fold, Hero?

Limper is short, UTG is probably pot-committed, thoughts on shoving vs. folding?
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09-10-2011 , 08:15 PM
What exactly are the blinds 1.25/2.5 right? Limp is almost definitely weak, UTG+2 is probably isoing and you have a decent ds two way hand. Reads on UTG+2 would be good here as to whether I fold or shove. I lean towards the latter in a vacuum and because I just like to gamboool it up at FTs with these sorts of hands and your stack size. I can't fault either play massively here, but I shove.

Here I ran a sim for once just out of curiousity with some pretty tight ranges....

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
Hand Pot equity Scoops Wins HiTies HiWins Lo Ties Lo
adqs4sqd37.44% 144,025256,45312,99935,87440,447
10%31.32% 88,708160,26717,77895,40692,272
10%31.24% 88,266160,00017,58295,15592,385

Last edited by streityboy; 09-10-2011 at 08:24 PM.
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09-10-2011 , 08:48 PM
fold against nits go with it against maniacs
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09-11-2011 , 07:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wallhallen
fold against nits go with it against maniacs
oh hello
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09-11-2011 , 05:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy2DaBeroy
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
Hi-Lo Omaha $2,500(BB) Replayer
Hero ($21,790)
BB ($28,612)
UTG ($12,735)
UTG+1 ($20,209)
UTG+2 ($71,945)
CO ($67,550)
BTN ($36,659)

Dealt to Hero Q Q A 4

UTG calls $2,500, fold, UTG+2 raises to $8,334, fold, fold, Hero?

Limper is short, UTG is probably pot-committed, thoughts on shoving vs. folding?
Dodge the big stack. (Fold).

For what it's worth, I'd hate to fold this. It might take all the self discipline I could summon to fold this. I'd want to shove. But I think folding is the better play. It's not a call, in my humble opinion. (The reason to call might be deception and mixing up your play - but I think there are other better places to mix up your play).

Buzz
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09-11-2011 , 08:57 PM
Any reads in utg2? If he has been active I am not folding this hand. In fact I have a hard time folding this at all unless utg2 is quite nitty
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09-11-2011 , 11:12 PM
Yeah, if utg+2 has been aggro i think this is a shove here imo. He might be trying to iso utg+1 with A2xx randoms, which u have decent equity against. Depending on the image of utg+2 i think i would shove.
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09-12-2011 , 01:17 AM
agree with everyone else utg+2 would have to be a nit to make this a fold... against anyone
else though shove and you will probably have 53-54% vs his range
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