Been playing a lot of holdem hyper turbos and it is amazing how many games you can get through.

Obviously any edge is minimal in hypers at holdem though but i think they would attract a lot of new players to pl8 and would be full of fish trying the game and donating.

They have holdem hypers at $1.5 , $7 and $30 buy ins (no idea why they missed out the $3.5s and the $15s the others fill so so fast and i imagine $3.5 and $15s would fill so much , seems a missed trick by stars)

There are plo hypers at $7 buy ins and these fill quite fast too i played about 30 earlier so i don't see why pl8 ones wouldn't fill.

So how about some pl8 hyper turbos at $1.5 , $3.5 , $7 , $15 & $30 buy ins.

I mean even if you don't play them personally , where is the downside? Stars makes more money , new players get attracted to pl8 and the regs get more choice.

+1

Puhh the downside would be that the traffic of other o8 sng goes down, there would always 4-5 regs be registered and the edge is thin. I mean there would be almost no postflop game. Dont get me wrong i would probably play them but i think after a few months the game were harder to beat than today.

i'll sign

I'm in.

why do u want to turn a post flop game into a pre flop game.. even worse than nl8 imo. You would have virtually no edge vs anyone competent, and they would just be Ax shove fests.

Volume, VVPs , $$ & attract new players to the game.

I don't think there would be a huge difference in normal oh8 sng traffic because there would be plenty people with opinions like yourself and plenty people who just don't like hyper turbos.

I also think it is entirely possible these would draw a whole new genre of players to oh8 , a lot of "gamblers" like oh8 because they can play more hands , there could be a lot of people playing these who just want to throw chips around, i mean on bwin they have games where everyone gets 1 chip to start and everyone is all in hand 1 and they attract a lot of players , a lot of these types of players might play hyper oh8 sngs for the rapid action.

Regarding any edge being minimal , well all hypers have a minimal edge that is nature of the beast but hypers still exist because people like to put in an insane amount of volume, this could also open up a viable way for oh8 players to reach supernova and supernova elite , i personally think too that it would be easier to have a decent edge in these compared to nlhe hypers.

Also at the moment imo the normal sngs are already a little reg heavy and i mean take this week for example with the BOTP promotion i wanted to fire through earth and neptune but the games fill so slow i gave up entirely on earth and neptune and even in venus it can take hours upon hours to play 20 or 30 games , if the hypers filled as fast as the $7 plo hypers fill i could get through 500 games a day without any problem over 6 days that would be 3000 games were id be lucky getting through 100 normally so 30 x the volume if roi's were 1/10th what they were in regular sngs that would be 3x the profit and a lot of vpp benefits on top.

There can also be a surprising amount of play in the hypers , some of the hyper plo ones were lasting 15-20 minutes at 6 max , that is quite a few hands.

Another thing too is a lot of people grasp close to perfect push/fold strategy for NLHE but way less people have push/fold with short stacks refined at oh8.

Also love hypers or hate them NLHE players and even PLO players get the choice or normal or hyper games why do pl8 players always have to get the short end of the stick and not get the option to choose.

It is just my opinion but IMO any regs who grind the oh8 scene should be licking their lips at the thought , instead of bad players getting an hour or whatever to lose their $ they get a fraction of the time with hypers and they can get more volume in = easier to stack of their bankroll to the regs , ok it is cruel on the bad players but personally i am here to try and make $$ so that is the goal.

Agreed, these would be absolutely brilliant for sng regs. I've sent e-mails to stars about this already but no luck...Just add them already, I dont see any reason not to

I would definitely be in for this for all of the reasons above plus one more.
I love SnG's but I also have 2 young kids which means I need to be capable of quitting with very short notice. This has, for the most part, forced me into playing cash games that I don't really want to be in.

It looks like a few people wouldn't like them but quite a lot would like them (pretty much the same as any other game , plenty people dont like regular turbos but enough do that they are catered for) i have spoke to some other players who said they would love them too.

So yeah there appears to be some demand at least and it is something that would cost pokerstars absolutely nothing to implement , nobody is asking for guarantees or anything and judging by how fast the plo ones fill rather than costing pokerstars anything they are actually missing out on extra $$ by not having them.

+1 obv

playing 1billion sngs a year seems like my type of thing and i wouldn't mind paying tens of tousend in rake as long as the games are fast and beatable which omaha8 hyper ones would definatly be.

If ppl go broke ( or not cause there is a promo and 10k is a lot of money and they proceed to suckout ) with KK92 preflop at 10/20 in a regular speed sng i wonder what their calling range would be in a hyper

grinders: sit there and make money
fishes: get of steam shoving every hand
rakeback dudes: breaking even seems possible with little knowledge so this would attract them.
stars: guy that pays rake for 3k sng > guy that pays rake for 100 sngs

i also don't think this would kill the rest ( at least the one which is still there after black friday ) of the games for the reasons marky mentioned.

after all this would be +EV for everyone ( even for the ones that need the fun factor while playing ) and i don't see a reason for stars to refuse this, but i have a feeling they will just not care as usual.

-1
agree with everything Prophili and prodonkey said.

I'm in. Already play the holdem hypers and O8 sngs. These would be a great addition.

Signed.

I think NLO8 would work better in a hyper-turbo format simply because of the popularity the 18 man turbos in NL VS PL format.

I agree. Suits me fine, I have a short attention span.

sign me up

Wow a Sunday and its like pulling teeth trying to get a decent amount of games in @ the regular games. These regular SNG's seem to be getting harder and harder to grind. At least with hypers there would be a quick turnover of games , i mean if an average part time player is going to play 1 table at a time at least with the hypers even 1 tabling he is able to play way more games and therefor increasing the volume of oh8 games being played.

+1 to petition, add more hypers already.

Hypers are fun, plain and simple. I'm pretty sure their popularity is only going to increase, I've been playing them personally for a month and wouldn't even consider going back to Turbo's. To be honest, I'm surprised stars hasn't already expanded their hyper sng offerings. PLO8 or NLO8 hypers (6 or 9 max) would be a lot of fun, and I'd be very surprised to not see them going off often. Taking the expansion concept even further, I'm surprised they aren't trying a few MTT Hyper SNG's. I'm almost certain the hold'em MTT SNG scene would change if they did, 7$ 18/45/180 mans hypers would be a smash, in fact, I bet we'll see them in the future. It kinda sucks that there's no pessure on pokerstars right now as far as competition, because if there were a different site which hosted something that drew a ton of traffic ( and some traffic away from stars) a similar tournament structure would show up on pokerstars much sooner.

Oh also, I noticed a NLO8 38$ 6 max hyper sattelite to TCOOP event # 43 in client today.



Please add something similar to event #2. $11 + .35 or something would be awesome.

this needs to happen, one time pls

I have just read an article about the coming changes on PS and there was mentioned they are bringing in 9 and 6 man hyper turbo SNGs. I hope it applys not only holdem SNGs but O8. We will see in January.

-1 here as well

agree with em too...

The new Pokerstars SNG manager has been very responsive to suggestions. So far, he's added a $30 18 man NLO8 turbo and also a $3.50 45 man NLO8 turbo.

I just posted in the STT SNG suggestion thread on the implementation of NLO8/PLO8 hyper turbo SNGs. Feel free to continue to voice your opinions in this thread or in the STT suggestions thread.

+1
just read this so i m realy late, but yeah i'd love this on stars.

someone said the downside would be it would take alot of traffic away from the games. well since the americans are not alowed to play alot of the traffic went along time ago.
i remember when i could be playing up to 10+ $15plo8 sngs... now i can barely play 1 in a hour.

plo8 is the only sngs i make profit in and playing a hyper sng version would be perfect especially as it would help getting more vpps..

Talking about suggestions... i would like to see some PLO8 CG heads-up tables.

Sorry for a little off in this thread.