Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Is it OK to open one-way hands? Is it OK to open one-way hands?

04-14-2022 , 01:10 PM
Hi all,

In big o, is it optimal to open strong high-only hands like AKQTT or AATTJ? What about low-only hands like A2356? (With a suited ace?)

I see most good hands have both components but I wonder if this is a must to see a flop.

Thanks,
DT
Is it OK to open one-way hands? Quote
04-26-2022 , 05:03 PM
I think it's ok for both.

You can scoop pots with high only hands. Remember, there is always a high hand.

You can scoop and 3/4 with the low variety hands.

Making wheel-9 is usually good.

Hand: A2369

Flop 578
Turn 4
River A
Is it OK to open one-way hands? Quote
05-05-2022 , 12:13 PM
I think it's still a game dominated by high hands - the only good lows would be nut low draws like A2s as mentioned. The problem with low hands is unless you have nut hands it's hard to draw knowing you might lose the low and will have to bluff the high out. I would think a hand like A2KQT ds would be close to the nuts in hi/lo
Is it OK to open one-way hands? Quote
05-06-2022 , 11:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerfan655
I would think a hand like A2KQT ds would be close to the nuts in hi/lo
I'd trade a wheel card for any of those non-ace Broadway cards. T is "powerful" though as it's a must have for high straights.
Is it OK to open one-way hands? Quote
05-07-2022 , 05:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NLOmahaHL
I'd trade a wheel card for any of those non-ace Broadway cards. T is "powerful" though as it's a must have for high straights.
So I ran an equity sim if you changed the queen to a 3 and equity went up 2% - would of never thought that. I just think it's really hard to play a low only hand unless it's the nuts because you know you're only winning half the pot unless you bluff the high, and you could get scooped. Non-nut lows are very hard to play, while non-nut highs are much easier.
Is it OK to open one-way hands? Quote
05-07-2022 , 08:23 PM
well the hand improves on the wheel/low facet of the hand and still maintains its high/broadway potential, so i think it makes sense and is still in line with your logic.
Is it OK to open one-way hands? Quote
05-08-2022 , 08:53 AM
What about in NLO/8 and PLO/8?
Is it OK to open one-way hands? Quote
05-08-2022 , 10:45 PM
With a hand like A2369, remove a card for NL or PL, and it's not very great at all.

NL let's you get all your opponent's stack in the middle more often with only 1 half of the pot locked up when you 3/4 them. (But that kinda generalizes the objective of all split pot games)

Some hands, especially in the 5 card variant, just possess such 2-way strength that it's probably ok to take them to showdown all the time. And in some spots you can gamble before your hand is made, or play pot control until the board completes.

Maybe run some sims with hands that contain an ace, 2, 3, and two broadway cards or two paired Broadway cards i.e A23TT, A23JJ, and so on. AKB23/AB234 is probably another hand that you can just get to showdown with. See how those match up to any hand on random boards.

Pre flop premium holdings is good in this game(and in every game, right?), but lots of the real play comes post flop in this game, especially the big o, and all non-fixed limit 8 or better variants.
Is it OK to open one-way hands? Quote

      
m