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11-18-2014 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by alexmck123
had an awfull day today, varience is a bitch......
Awful and variance I think you mean.

On that it took me 16k games at hypers to get a proper downswing. But then again the games are a lot tougher than they used to be and I have been lazy.

Looking to do a matrix re blinds, stack sizes and expected calling/shoving frequencies with ICM. Pondering Nash for 08. I need to get better. But it's the c***ishness of biood that will help me. Everytime I want to get lazy I will envisage that and I will have no probs.
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11-18-2014 , 07:26 PM
fine, and then play some 500$ games with me ok ? u are the second best after me, you shud beat it.
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11-18-2014 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
fine, and then play some 500$ games with me ok ? u are the second best after me, you shud beat it.
Shame neither of us are close to being the 1st or 2nd best. Thing is I know I am not. You don't.

In the end which will result in greater long term improvement...ego and bravado or humility and self awareness? Not having the latter is the single reason the poker economy survives.

Anyway, enough of this logic ****e. I think I need to make some ridiculous comment about being the GOAT next year or something like you did and it will become some self fulfilling prophecy.

Last edited by streityboy; 11-18-2014 at 07:59 PM.
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11-18-2014 , 08:10 PM
so who do you think is better than me at the moment in 6m hypers ?
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11-19-2014 , 11:41 AM
Quantum
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11-19-2014 , 12:50 PM
lol
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11-19-2014 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
Awful and variance I think you mean.

On that it took me 16k games at hypers to get a proper downswing. But then again the games are a lot tougher than they used to be and I have been lazy.

Looking to do a matrix re blinds, stack sizes and expected calling/shoving frequencies with ICM. Pondering Nash for 08. I need to get better. But it's the c***ishness of biood that will help me. Everytime I want to get lazy I will envisage that and I will have no probs.
im english and still cant spell, no wonder i suck haha. the best is who ever is crushing at the momment and that would go to biood, but it just to who ever put the most work in
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11-19-2014 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
so who do you think is better than me at the moment in 6m hypers ?
Bro 6m hypers are one thing. There are a host of guys who beat o8 hypers and rarely play them now - most move on, play cash, mtts, chase bigger scores in texas.

There must be 1,000 6m grinders with close to perfect strategy in holdem. More than 1,000 likely have real-time ICM, equity and EV on their screens. Not even knowing how to play o8, they could still beat the game and cause problems with cold plays and ultra-aggression. Maybe ask jorg if he will join your $500 6m, get bokkie, coldbryan and a couple of over-aggro donks like spanishfish and ismo<3seppo to join, I bet you quit playing $500 within a week.

You don't seem to respect how swingy short-handed games are, likely you have been running at or above EV for a long time. If you were to ask any of the "true" greats in any sport, they never acknowledge a few months or a season of greatness - do it over at least 3 years, beat quality fields, win when not at your best, maybe then.

Last edited by The_Exile; 11-19-2014 at 06:21 PM. Reason: Don't forget Wadzon and his excellent high-stakes streak, SC rating 88?
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11-19-2014 , 06:19 PM
it depends on what you consider to be the "best". one would argue the one who plays best and gets the biggest $/game is best. another one would argue evROI is what counts. another one would say overall profit in a given time is what counts and the next would say $/h is what counts.

in my opinion a combination of evROI and number of tables where you can do that roi is what counts.
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11-19-2014 , 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Exile
Bro 6m hypers are one thing. There are a host of guys who beat o8 hypers and rarely play them now - most move on, play cash, mtts, chase bigger scores in texas.

There must be 1,000 6m grinders with close to perfect strategy in holdem. More than 1,000 likely have real-time ICM, equity and EV on their screens. Not even knowing how to play o8, they could still beat the game and cause problems with cold plays and ultra-aggression. Maybe ask jorg if he will join your $500 6m, get bokkie, coldbryan and a couple of over-aggro donks like spanishfish and ismo<3seppo to join, I bet you quit playing $500 within a week.

You don't seem to respect how swingy short-handed games are, likely you have been running at or above EV for a long time. If you were to ask any of the "true" greats in any sport, they never acknowledge a few months or a season of greatness - do it over at least 3 years, beat quality fields, win when not at your best, maybe then.
IF IF IF... do they actually play o8 ? no. so what is your post even about? we were talking about the situation just right now.
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11-19-2014 , 06:40 PM
highly doubt these so called hyper pros with perfect icm could transission into 08 over night, the hand ranges are so much different. and im pretty sure biood would do good even with those at his table, if there so easy to win then why isnt jorj sitting 30 tabling them? people underestimate how difficult 08 actully is?
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11-19-2014 , 07:46 PM
No. They don't want to multi table the GOAT mck.

I know I have gone through this process before biood, but in no particular order:

Bokkie, Juicy, Bob, Waltiph, Booink, Macros are just a few I can think off of the top of my drunken head. Maybe when I have sobered up I will name you a few more, or maybe others can fill the obvious gaps in the meantime.

I have been through my opinion on how you measure greatness/excellence last time we had this inane discussion but you paid **** all attention to any logical argument and if I recall just seemed to continuously yell, with the intellectual rigor of a 5 year old yelling at mummy for more sweets, "I am the greatest, all you are fish, one day you will realise I am the greatest, you are all morons stfu..."

Luckily you play poker better than you construct a reasoned argument....then again that isn't very hard....damn that's not really the compliment I intended it to be. Heh ho.

Last edited by streityboy; 11-19-2014 at 07:51 PM.
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11-19-2014 , 08:47 PM
u want a reasoned argument:

according to ss:
#1 biood: 31,8k $
#2 bokkie: 19,1k $

- maybe I missed something but from all relevant players bokkie is the only one to have higher $/game then me but I expect him to have like double the avg buy-in then me. ( can't look it up )

- i have won most money in these games every month last 4 months

--> I think thats actually reasonable arguments to claim to be the best AT THE MOMENT.

btw: I don't even called someone fish (I think all the players you have mentioned are good.) but I'd bet up to 5k even against everyone that nobody can make more than me in a month in these games at the moment.


@streity: its ok to have the opinion that other players are better but actually you are the one to give no reasons for your order.

question for everybody: what would I have to do to claim to be the best in your opinion ?

imo some people just can't give me credit for what I've achieved.. if I would set a new world record in something you would probably still say I'm not the best in that particular thing
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11-19-2014 , 09:22 PM
My top 3 at this moment would be Juicy biood and bob. If bokkie would be still playing he would be my top pick, but he too busy playing high stakes cash.
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11-19-2014 , 09:23 PM
Also anyone knows how all those people on merge win so much money in SnGs?
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11-19-2014 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
IF IF IF... do they actually play o8 ? no. so what is your post even about? we were talking about the situation just right now.
They all played o8 hypers at some point. Jorg goes for max volume at highest stakes, I've never played him in a sng but his record is envious. I guess bokkie is spending too much time with casino and sportsbook (apparently), bryan is doing cash and mtts, spanishfish is donking all over the place and ismo is being fed cash with a shovel ($16 million???? highest earner on stars???).

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Originally Posted by biood1
but I'd bet up to 5k even against everyone that nobody can make more than me in a month in these games at the moment.
My problem with that is you are probably right. The problem with THAT is it means you are hogging all the EV and running insanely good in those games. Anyone can win with huge cards and a split-happy underdog.

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imo some people just can't give me credit for what I've achieved.. if I would set a new world record in something you would probably still say I'm not the best in that particular thing
Post a graph showing you running BELOW EV for 3 or more months and STILL posting impressive profit stats, pre rake-back, then I will be a believer. Or win a few mtts, prove you got patience and skill.
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11-19-2014 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
in no particular order:

Bokkie, Juicy, Bob, Waltiph, Booink, Macros
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Originally Posted by Wallhallen
My top 3 at this moment would be Juicy biood and bob.
Some of us are easily impressed - macros, juicy, bob, booink, waltiph? haha

Oh what the hell, biood1 is the best
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11-19-2014 , 10:50 PM
i'm the best roulette player in Scotland.

none of the best o8 regs play HT's as their main game lol...ya giant douche

and pretty sure no1 cares who my or may not be the best HT player.
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11-20-2014 , 08:39 AM
i have never said i am the best O8 player ^^
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11-20-2014 , 01:07 PM
Hi Exile,

For some reason we've given you some rope on yet another return to the forum since you've apparently been on your best behavior ... but if you start yet another pissing contest, you'll be gone again in a flash. Just so you know.
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11-20-2014 , 02:35 PM
people need to grind rather then bitch on here....
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11-21-2014 , 09:49 AM
After having the pleasure of playing a little bit with biood today i have to say i can see why hes the best.
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11-21-2014 , 11:10 AM
haters gonna hate nobody wants to do a most profit propbet against me. everybody knows that everyone is underdog in that right now against me in that particular game. so keep hating. my goal for 2015 will be to win in 10-15 sharkscope leaderboards. gl everyone.
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11-22-2014 , 12:38 PM
gl, impressive goal!


Have been a bit more lucky this time around when moving up...

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11-22-2014 , 07:12 PM
did hit 5 golden sngs so far
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