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07-11-2014 , 12:23 PM
I do enjoy a good joke biood - I also find it funny that u and juicy have both quit on me the last 5 times we played. Geez both of u running +EV and turn down action with a -EV player whom, according to juicy, "clearly isn't very good at hypers". I'm sure there's a punch line in there somewhere

Serious Q though - just how much do u guys table select? I don't ever, maybe even prefer stronger fields for the gameplay, but are there any reasons u guys end your sessions, take breaks or are there any players/combos you avoid?
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07-11-2014 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by HighTillIDieT4L
I could play until Greenland re-freezes and not produce a graph like that.

It genuinely must be awesome to run + EV even for a (relatively) small sample of 2,500 games.

I picked Muller as first goal scorer yesterday and have Argentina to win the world cup, yet you still managed to **** up my day with this **** LOL.
I have James Rodriguez as tournament top scorer so I'm sweating Muller not scoring one in the final If only I'd made an absurd misclick and accidently bet my roll on Germany beating Brazil 7-1, must have been some astronomical odds on that one.
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07-11-2014 , 01:16 PM
I quit when I am tired. Quitting playing while you are registering is not a big deal to me. There are plenty of soft players in these to win money from. This is not 25-50 nl we are talking about here.

Ill pass on reging certains 60s/100s if they are all regs but beyond that no on the game selection.
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07-11-2014 , 01:58 PM
^^ OK thanks man. I'm disappointed when u leave because I need u and johnniewalk (the most +EV player IMHO in 2014) to cancel each other out, then I win.

The last graph u posted of results vs me showed that not only did I get in ahead almost all of the time but the HU stats allegedly show me holding most of the time too. You haven't been winning the games we've been playing lately either. On that evidence it would seem that when you said you, "enjoy playing me because I'm easy to play", u really meant you enjoyed getting in behind and losing.

@viper - I was watching some argie propaganda comparing messi to maradona (the only player acknowledged to have won a World Cup "by himself") and saw how bad this current Argentina team are. I was left thinking messi is gonna repeat history. Hope I'm right and that muller doesn't wreck both our bets! Must be good odds on James Rodriguez top scorer as I had barely heard of him b4 this WC. Shame Columbia didn't have falcao as well and beat brazil
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07-11-2014 , 02:47 PM
I believe the graph I showed was a chip ev graph of you vs the table while I am at it which has nothing to with whether or not you get it in ahead against me or not. Also being overly concerned about getting it in ahead is probably not the best mindset for hypers. I gtd nobody who plays a lot of hypers is all that concerned about having you in their games despite what the voice in your head are telling you.
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07-11-2014 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HighTillIDieT4L
I do enjoy a good joke biood - I also find it funny that u and juicy have both quit on me the last 5 times we played. Geez both of u running +EV and turn down action with a -EV player whom, according to juicy, "clearly isn't very good at hypers". I'm sure there's a punch line in there somewhere

Serious Q though - just how much do u guys table select? I don't ever, maybe even prefer stronger fields for the gameplay, but are there any reasons u guys end your sessions, take breaks or are there any players/combos you avoid?

lololololololololol

**** run for your lives every1...almight nit quantumx1 is coming!

He's gonna be ahead in the high 3/2 and for the low 6/5 2/3's of the time!
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07-11-2014 , 09:31 PM
Nits rule fish drool. Anyone note how salisero, jani and bokkie play a diff game to the "good regs". Lololol. And billy, if u wanna constantly bleat your **** in this thread, can u at least play some hypers? Juicy says he doesn't mind quitting on me bc there are lots of soft players - don't make him a liar
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07-11-2014 , 10:48 PM
I don't run good enough in flips i'm afraid Not to mention they give me a headache....

From now on I am trying to make an effort to minimize the amount of different games and formats I play in a session. I play too many different games which i'm sure reduces my huuuuuge edge over the fish.

mtts I will still play different games but trying to keep the tables down esp at weekends.

yawn 12th in omania 27. keep near missing in these things. shove kk23 from CO for 12 bb or somthin, button calls with aq7x and obv makes a boat. What a **** year i'm having although O8 is the only game I have any significant profits in.
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07-11-2014 , 10:52 PM
there is a $7.50 HT mtt $250 gtd starting in 10 min. Think this just got added recenty. Hope they add more of these with various buyins.
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07-11-2014 , 10:54 PM
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Thanks certainly the swings can be frustrating at times but I think I do a good job of not letting it affect my play. At the end of the day occasionally I'll be upset with what just transpired. In cases such as this I usually immediately meditate,vaporize some grass, relax and take my mind off poker for awhile. I'm very conscious now of not letting poor results affect how I deal with friends/family etc as in the past I have been dickish towards loved ones after bad days ands thats just not fair to them. When my gf gets home at night I dont want to ever be a dick to her because I had a bad day playing a card game I love.
I was searching for the graph you posted and I found this. Fair play to you. I think every player has been frustrated or been short with someone at some point. I know I have. Many times important people have been telling me things, expecting a reaction, and I (while playing and taking a series of beats) am like, "uh huh, yea, yep, mmmm". LOL, funny in hindsight.

What you describe above is the reason why I take all of my frustration out on you guys. If I can't get even in the running, I'm not taking it out in my real life, I'm taking it out on YOU.

If you are ever stuck for a source (ya better believe I'm hooked up) or wanna compare notes, feel free to PM me. Yea, really, I will still think you are a wanker at the tables, don't worry, but I give you my word I'm solid off the tables

As for the graph I was lookin for, I thought it was our HU play in 6-max HT? I will never, ever, ever believe any graph that shows me + EV vs the field, so don't talk ****.

And yea, I'm sure there are many regs that LOVE me at the tables. **** I could list them but it would take too long. I go on streaks of 10-14 buy-ins when johnnie, hun, bull, grampadonk, sally and others win every hand vs me, all of them as dogs.

Johnniewalk has driven me to the brink of insanity (nope, not there yet, this is just the vodka). Just imagine your point of maximum frustration when you couldn't win a hand vs LOLtard match-ups and you are where I am 24/7 with HTs. I swear to **** you would quit permanently if you had my running (made maybe $500 from 3000 games in 2014, and no, considering I was 3rd @ $15-35 in 2013, it's not like I'm a clueless villain).
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07-11-2014 , 11:14 PM
For one day can you stop banging on about how you think you run worse than than every1 else. It's simply not the case.
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07-12-2014 , 05:44 AM
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07-12-2014 , 08:24 AM
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07-12-2014 , 11:52 AM
Zee funny German is at it again, ja.
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07-12-2014 , 12:55 PM
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there is a $7.50 HT mtt $250 gtd starting in 10 min. Think this just got added recenty. Hope they add more of these with various buyins.
I went looking for this game and couldn't find it for ffs. Also I wish I COULD stop banging on about how I run worse than everyone else but it's just not possible. I have HUGE streaks against the same players every day - ask ttouch how many times he/she/it has put a huge outdraw on me deep in MTTs. I've only ever won one hand vs this idiot player, cosmicdancer, in hundreds of games. In the $2r it's not uncommon for me to hit 20-30 rebuys daily. I went the guts of 2 months losing every hand to angryjuice in sngs. Went longer without winning a hand vs lukro8. Don't even get me started on the HTs where johnnie takes 10-15 buy-ins off me every session b4 I get a hand to hold. OR when bullstopper and hunmatt just rape me continually with any muck, everybody outdraws me constantly. You think I'm a nit, fair enough, I probably am but ya ever wondered how an uber-aggressive live player got so tight on-line? It's because I had to learn to use tools other than the luckbox button to win because my luckbox button is broken.
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07-12-2014 , 03:42 PM
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07-12-2014 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HighTillIDieT4L
I went looking for this game and couldn't find it for ffs. Also I wish I COULD stop banging on about how I run worse than everyone else but it's just not possible. I have HUGE streaks against the same players every day - ask ttouch how many times he/she/it has put a huge outdraw on me deep in MTTs. I've only ever won one hand vs this idiot player, cosmicdancer, in hundreds of games. In the $2r it's not uncommon for me to hit 20-30 rebuys daily. I went the guts of 2 months losing every hand to angryjuice in sngs. Went longer without winning a hand vs lukro8. Don't even get me started on the HTs where johnnie takes 10-15 buy-ins off me every session b4 I get a hand to hold. OR when bullstopper and hunmatt just rape me continually with any muck, everybody outdraws me constantly. You think I'm a nit, fair enough, I probably am but ya ever wondered how an uber-aggressive live player got so tight on-line? It's because I had to learn to use tools other than the luckbox button to win because my luckbox button is broken.
a few of the players you mention just seem to run good for as long as I can remember.

ttouch was the same versus me last year. In mtt's and HT's I literally couldn't win a hand v him no matter how far I was ahead. He defo wouldn't deny it as we talked about it a bit.

Lukro8 has been on a 3 year heater. He used to be pretty bad too and won **** loads in mtt's but is much more solid these days.

I don't think I have ever won a hand v jani. Although I do think he plays very well.

In cash games exit2film just runs lol good and plays lol bad. From talking to other cash regs like ray12344566778888 he has been on a ridic heater for years so even if he could play well why would he lol.

I have always run bad versus many of these players and never really had any sort of prolonged heater of my own. I used to play much tighter than I do now and I was running horribly below ev for long periods. I still run consistently below ev but not quite as horrid as before as I've had to play looser nowadays to adapt to aggro regs and aggro fish although I try and keep a balance and many regs have only 1 gear which is generally gii pre or OTF wherever possible.

I overcompensated for a while and now changing it around depending on tables/games but trying to take lower variance spots when possible.

Believe me you are not the only one that has had problems with a load of regs running horribly good v you. There are loads of good players that seem to generally run terrible versus a load of other players. Not to mention the regs I was running so far under ev last year but the weekend fish this year has just been amazing. Which is why I don't have much mtt profits this year as I have had mostly losing weekends. All I can do is play as well as possibly and keep the tilt to a minimum and hopefully variance will swing my way again soon.

In cash games when shortstacker like epperoci or w/e he is called wouldn't lose flips. And coz his only move was allin or fold it's ****ing frustratin when you lose almost every flip over a period of time.

I have had times when I just think the stars rng is totally bs but that only makes me more frustrated so i'm trying to put away the tin foil hat although I still have huge doubts.

But what good is it you harping on about it day after day on a strat forum. Why don't you go an post all this stuff in bbv? coz they will troll you to hell right...

Now this is the most reasonable response I have ever given you so why don't you try and refrain from the personal insults when you reply to this post.
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07-12-2014 , 04:28 PM
whats even the point in talking about how someone runs against single players. When you play against tons of players then obviously you will run bad against some of them but run good against some aswell. So no matter what its just another stupid post by quantum anyway. When quantum says he runs bad then he probably means he is not winning as much money as he should, my understanding of running bad tho is that you run BELOW your expectations (expectations that are proven by science). So what about posting some longterm ev graphs quantum Instead of crying here everytime. when you say you run bad against all the regs i expect you just mean you think you should win more against them but probably you are just too bad.
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07-12-2014 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
When you play against tons of players then obviously you will run bad against some of them but run good against some aswell.
Yea don't assume until you've walked a mile in another man's shoes. I run like **** vs ALL the main regs in every format. There is only one good player I have ever ran well against - J8llyfish.

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when you say you run bad against all the regs i expect you just mean you think you should win more against them but probably you are just too bad.
There aren't many, if any, regs in any of the formats I play that kill me statistically. Despite running like **** I think I have as good if not better ROI in 18-man and 6-max HTs than anyone posting here - including you

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07-12-2014 , 05:48 PM
roi isnt important, i rather go with 2-3% roi and 16 table than have. 4-5% Roi and 6 table things... Did you ever even post a good ev graph here ? Same as juicy said, We could do most profit/month bet and i would even give you 2:1
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07-12-2014 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HighTillIDieT4L
Yea don't assume until you've walked a mile in another man's shoes. I run like **** vs ALL the main regs in every format. There is only one good player I have ever ran well against - J8llyfish.



There aren't many, if any, regs in any of the formats I play that kill me statistically. Despite running like **** I think I have as good if not better ROI in 18-man and 6-max HTs than anyone posting here - including you

so you have the best ROI here yet you run the worst out of anyone. What world do you live in ffs.
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07-12-2014 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
roi isnt important, i rather go with 2-3% roi and 16 table than have. 4-5% Roi and 6 table things...
I'd rather play 7-8 tables - going with 5%+ in HT, 20%+ in 18-man and 90%+ in mtt. But that's just me.

I'm not interested in challenging you. I am not the only person to have ever questioned your style on 2+2. I remember a few times after arguments about who is the GOAT, people saying, "at least we can all agree biood is the best". It was sarcastic btw if lost in translation.

I don't care how many tables you play or how much you make per hour, it doesn't excuse wanton abandonment of fundamentals or entitle you to run @ or > EV. Ever considered if you played better you could make 4% on your 16 tables instead of 2-3%?

If ya keep busting bullstopper and johnniewalk tho I will be your biggest fan
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07-12-2014 , 07:26 PM
i dont have 2-3 % roi tho
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07-12-2014 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HighTillIDieT4L
I'd rather play 7-8 tables - going with 5%+ in HT, 20%+ in 18-man and 90%+ in mtt. But that's just me.
make that 20% in the long run, there very very few ppl having a real 90% roi in mtts esp. nowadays and you're clearly not one of them!
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