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06-19-2014 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
@ Quantum: You talk like you know how to crush 6m hypers, but why do I not realy face you then ? I mean: No way to make more money in mtts+18 mans than in 6m hypers if you crush them.

& MTTs? Seriously? Maybe you need to let themanparris and ttouch77 know that there's more money in HTs. All of those +75K per year 'HT crushers' are laughing all the way to the bank.
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06-19-2014 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveMcQueen
& MTTs? Seriously? Maybe you need to let themanparris and ttouch77 know that there's more money in HTs. All of those +75K per year 'HT crushers' are laughing all the way to the bank.
just to be sure: im talking about O8 mtts... doubt they can make more due to lack of volume
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06-19-2014 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
just to be sure: im talking about O8 mtts... doubt they can make more due to lack of volume

Despite the lack of volume, I have a hard time believing that the O8 HT crushers are making more than the top O8 MTT regulars; even after isolating their O8 results. There's very little long term benefits of playing HTs - oh wait, I forgot how MUCH money is to be made during the Golden Ticket promotions...
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06-19-2014 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
@ Everybody: Hunmatt and me Are going to try to play 1000 games each on sunday. For me I will play as high as I can up to 60$ trying to keep number of tables at arround 16. Lowest buyin will be 3,5$. We will start arround 11:00 CET and hopefully generate some traffic. So keep sunday in mind, there will probably be some more traffic then in generell so you might want To start earlier as in general. gl everyone and espacially to hunmatt.
gl, 1000 is a lot, your in for a tough day. would be nice to see these games get way more traffic. its good for all of us.

nice to see things like this happening and premove doing his challenge its good for the hi/lo community and hopefully bring in new players if they reg up quicker.

wish i could join ya sunday but off on holiday tomorrow gl at the tables boys and girls
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06-19-2014 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveMcQueen
Despite the lack of volume, I have a hard time believing that the O8 HT crushers are making more than the top O8 MTT regulars; even after isolating their O8 results. There's very little long term benefits of playing HTs - oh wait, I forgot how MUCH money is to be made during the Golden Ticket promotions...
thing is, theres no one getting in big volume in O8 hypers. HUNMATT has most games this year with 33k games according to sharkscope which is pretty meh for the leader.. if i wouldnt be lazy as ****, play HT's for the whole year and do a 35h week i would have like 65k games.. that would not even be a crazy amount IMO. just saying O8 regs are lazy as **** ^^
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06-19-2014 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by HighTillIDieT4L
Mostly because you play like a cross between juicy_j and a honey badger in need of re-uptake inhibitors. Do you drink or take steroids before you play?
Utter gold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg
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06-19-2014 , 06:16 PM
hunmatt and biood,write time when you play
maybe also will play with us
Today I play 432 sng microlimits(1.5-7)
+95 fact,+140 ev

Easy game
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06-19-2014 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by HighTillIDieT4L
I think you should replace, "in a bottle", with, "all over the field". It doesn't take that long to do an 18-man - you just play them while doing your MTTs, HTs or cash tables. I think you should play some more.



Mostly because you play like a cross between juicy_j and a honey badger in need of re-uptake inhibitors. Do you drink or take steroids before you play?

As for bokkie, I saw an improvement in his game a looooong time b4 it came fashionable. You lot are tragic when you think 1-2 big wins makes a player. This is what I said about bokkie 6 months ago in reply to streityboy:

"Bokkie is the best player u mentioned but only bc he has improved significantly in the last 6 months. He sat with jani, xQ, Juicy and wadzon for years and played almost identically to Juicy (hyper-aggressive from position) and did OK, top 20 in the leaderboards. THEN, he started playing like Jani and xQ - a little tight-aggressive even in hypers - and went from top 20 to 1st overall @ OHL any stakes 5-10 players. No coincidence."

Shove-tards might win the odd battle but nits will win the war
why were you talking about yourself in the 3rd person when you gave streity these great words of wisdom?
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06-19-2014 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveMcQueen
Despite the lack of volume, I have a hard time believing that the O8 HT crushers are making more than the top O8 MTT regulars; even after isolating their O8 results. There's very little long term benefits of playing HTs - oh wait, I forgot how MUCH money is to be made during the Golden Ticket promotions...
this lol....

can only imagine how bad it would be for my all round game and for playing cash games if I played hypers all year.

Some of the bs this guy is talking as amusing though. The forum is really going places these days.
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06-19-2014 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveMcQueen
Despite the lack of volume, I have a hard time believing that the O8 HT crushers are making more than the top O8 MTT regulars; even after isolating their O8 results. There's very little long term benefits of playing HTs - oh wait, I forgot how MUCH money is to be made during the Golden Ticket promotions...
ttouch77 is up bout 10k this year in O8 mtts and themanpariss is up like 35k...

a NOT lazy O8 hyper crusher can for sure do at least 6k-7k / month which would be the same like themanpariss or do i miss something here ?

ofc they can play different games/formats at the same time which is the big plus but as I was talking bout O8 mtts only so maybe missunderstood
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06-19-2014 , 07:35 PM
lmao...pls show us a HT player that has made 100k + a year profit.
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06-19-2014 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by billygstar
lmao...pls show us a HT player that has made 100k + a year profit.
theres nobody but its because they are too lazy, not because its not doable.
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06-19-2014 , 07:56 PM
yeah juicy and wadzon were real lazy huh

do u actually believe in the **** you are typing....keep thinking u are levelling a bit
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06-19-2014 , 08:34 PM
whats so unreal on playing 10k 6max hypers a month lol

edit: why so rude ? just because you couldnt play 10k games a month doesnt mean no one can do that... i could for sure but I am lazy aswell.

litle calc... 65 games / hour , 0,7$ / game ... ( i was talking bout someone who crushes the game ).. 160h/month --> 10400 games -> 7280$ + lets say 1,5k rakeback -> 8,8k / month
--> 105,6k / year ...

as I said a few time... that could potentially be someone who a) crushes the game b) plays a 40h/week and plays like 12-14 tables. when you come arround with " WTF THIS IS UNREAL **** " again, then be more specific on whats exactly unreal on dat calc... and pls dont be so rude lol its just a discussion, people can have different opinions bro

Last edited by biood1; 06-19-2014 at 08:42 PM.
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06-19-2014 , 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by billygstar
this lol....

can only imagine how bad it would be for my all round game and for playing cash games if I played hypers all year.

Some of the bs this guy is talking as amusing though. The forum is really going places these days.

Yeah, I find hypers really mess me up over time.



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Originally Posted by biood1
ttouch77 is up bout 10k this year in O8 mtts and themanpariss is up like 35k...

a NOT lazy O8 hyper crusher can for sure do at least 6k-7k / month which would be the same like themanpariss or do i miss something here ?

ofc they can play different games/formats at the same time which is the big plus but as I was talking bout O8 mtts only so maybe missunderstood

I honestly didn't know what ttouch77 earned in O8 so far this year, I was thinking about his ultra steady graph over the years - and he had played quite a bit of O8 MTTs over that time. But with Parris, if he's already up 35k this year - and we haven't even reached the halfway mark yet - and I'm going to assume that total is just for Stars (who knows how much more he's made on other sites as well so far this year), you have to wonder which O8 HT regular is matching that number. Anyone?


And while a HT grinder for O8 might earn +$7k in profit in a month, do you honestly think he or she will average that over a year? AFAIK, no one has done that. I would think the top HT regs might make $35k-$50k w/RB, at the end of the year. Above that, holy crap!!!



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Originally Posted by billygstar
lmao...pls show us a HT player that has made 100k + a year profit.

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Originally Posted by biood1
theres nobody but its because they are too lazy, not because its not doable.

But it isn't doable, BECAUSE not enough people are playing them 24/7. That aspect isn't much different than the limitations of relatively few O8 MTTs on Stars. Making $100k at O8 HTs, is like making +$20k at O8 9-man KOs (are people regularly playing those anymore?).


Besides, who said you have to restrict yourself to just playing on 1 site. You can play on FullTilt, iPoker, Prima, PartyPoker, 888.com, etc, to play more O8 MTTs. You can't do that for O8 HTs (AFAIK). MTTs have far more upside.

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06-19-2014 , 09:02 PM
I actually agree with Biood somewhat. As least in terms of people putting in volume I played 50k+ games last year in less than 900 hours and I dont play as many tables as Biood. I think I could probably do 40k games in 6 months fairly easily.
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06-19-2014 , 10:28 PM
Sure making 100k in a year from O8 hypers sounds like it would be pretty fn hard to do but lets not pretend like anyone is making 100k a year playing O8 mtts either.
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06-19-2014 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by UnnaturalDisaster
Sure making 100k in a year from O8 hypers sounds like it would be pretty fn hard to do but lets not pretend like anyone is making 100k a year playing O8 mtts either.
lol no1 here is saying they are. But yes its almost impossible now unless bink a scoop or 2.

See ppl that play mtts can also play cash. regs that play only ht's cant play anything else and even if they did play cahs they would be terrible and get owned hard. Well a couple of very good all round players may fair ok but most will not.

but he's the one claiming he can make 100k + a year in ht's. I'd bet 100k he cant anyday. Or any1 good for that matter.
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06-19-2014 , 10:43 PM
oh and what steve****inmqueen said about playing on other sites. 100k is possible if have a very good year. In ht's i'd say impossible.. some1 feel free to prove us right though.
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06-19-2014 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
whats so unreal on playing 10k 6max hypers a month lol

edit: why so rude ? just because you couldnt play 10k games a month doesnt mean no one can do that... i could for sure but I am lazy aswell.

litle calc... 65 games / hour , 0,7$ / game ... ( i was talking bout someone who crushes the game ).. 160h/month --> 10400 games -> 7280$ + lets say 1,5k rakeback -> 8,8k / month
--> 105,6k / year ...

as I said a few time... that could potentially be someone who a) crushes the game b) plays a 40h/week and plays like 12-14 tables. when you come arround with " WTF THIS IS UNREAL **** " again, then be more specific on whats exactly unreal on dat calc... and pls dont be so rude lol its just a discussion, people can have different opinions bro
What are you dreaming of??

Btw. instead of talking for a year how you will crush everbody and take all the leaderboards and everbodys money, how about you actually do it ???

All I see is bla bla bla, would should could do it!
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06-19-2014 , 11:13 PM
Its definitely not impossible. Someone could play 70k+ games and run hot and make 100k with rakeback. It wont be me. I can't see me ever playing only hypers for a year again.
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06-19-2014 , 11:25 PM
I'm sure 5-10 guys/girls at least will make >> $100K from OH8 MTTs this year. Have Aless and bokkie (in just 2 games) not already achieved this?

If you played every decent scheduled MTT and every special OH8 game from weekly to WCOOP, making > $100K a year pre-RB is realistic.

Not of course for those who shove 2 3 4 K with 30 BBs or those who raise-call A 3 7 T rainbow. LOLtards are better suited to HTs where those 4 complicated betting streets are compressed into the manageable singular.
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06-19-2014 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by billygstar
oh and what steve****inmqueen said about playing on other sites. 100k is possible if have a very good year. In ht's i'd say impossible.. some1 feel free to prove us right though.
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Originally Posted by HighTillIDieT4L
I'm sure 5-10 guys/girls at least will make >> $100K from OH8 MTTs this year. Have Aless and bokkie (in just 2 games) not already achieved this?

If you played every decent scheduled MTT and every special OH8 game from weekly to WCOOP, making > $100K a year pre-RB is realistic.

Not of course for those who shove 2 3 4 K with 30 BBs or those who raise-call A 3 7 T rainbow. LOLtards are better suited to HTs where those 4 complicated betting streets are compressed into the manageable singular.
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Originally Posted by UnnaturalDisaster
Its definitely not impossible. Someone could play 70k+ games and run hot and make 100k with rakeback. It wont be me. I can't see me ever playing only hypers for a year again.


Someone has to be a trailblazer, under optimal conditions, to do that JJ. The point is, no has done it. Maybe someone like A_Ivanovich circa whenever, vs a field of fish and slightly winning players from '03-'07 with the amount of games running now could do it, sure...


Just think about the number of O8 MTT regulars, who are likely to make more than whatever the top O8 HT earner makes in '14 - including play across all sites, and it would be significant.


Maybe I'm wrong on this point, but I would think the O8 HT regular is more likely to burn-out, flame-out, or lose interest over time; meaning year after year when SNE isn't realistically attainable.


It's a lot easier mixing in other variants of poker w/O8 MTTs as well. Only certain types of savants can do that with O8 HTs, combined with other forms of poker at the same time.


I'm an older guy by poker standards, I played just under 9k O8 HTs in February of 2013 (not very well mind you). Playing a ton is doable, but, why?
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06-19-2014 , 11:52 PM
How much are they making over 5-6 years. Winning scoops is nice but in terms of ev making 100k per year from playing O8 mtts is probably only possible if you are playing every O8 mtt on the internet and playing 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week. Playing hypers 60$ per hr is achievable so you could conceivably make 100k a year playing 140 hours a month playing hypers. Both grinds would be really tough but if I had to choose one I would choose the one that would be less time consuming.
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06-20-2014 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SteveMcQueen
Someone has to be a trailblazer, under optimal conditions, to do that JJ. The point is, no has done it. Maybe someone like A_Ivanovich circa whenever, vs a field of fish and slightly winning players from '03-'07 with the amount of games running now could do it, sure...


Just think about the number of O8 MTT regulars, who are likely to make more than whatever the top O8 HT earner makes in '14 - including play across all sites, and it would be significant.


Maybe I'm wrong on this point, but I would think the O8 HT regular is more likely to burn-out, flame-out, or lose interest over time; meaning year after year when SNE isn't realistically attainable.


It's a lot easier mixing in other variants of poker w/O8 MTTs as well. Only certain types of savants can do that with O8 HTs, combined with other forms of poker at the same time.


I'm an older guy by poker standards, I played just under 9k O8 HTs in February of 2013 (not very well mind you). Playing a ton is doable, but, why?
I think it depends on the individual. Some people enjoy mtts, some cash, some sng. I think playing the same of any format will get boring after a while for most but if you are good enough you can always change formats. Also most of the hyper guys on the leaderboard do play other games as well. Its not like bokkie,wadzon,angribob etc only play hypers.

I think I might play 2500 18 mans and 5000 hypers next month. I dont know if anyone has done a combo like that before.
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