sure

Hey m8 lol.. Where did you see me insulting you?

I have never seen such negative $ev plays as you're giving, so I can go for a bet.. But I'm sorry - I am not doing 1 week. We can go for half a year which will properly reduce the variance.

Rules:
*Bet 1K.
*We are sending money to trusted player so there won't be running away. *We are playing 1.5$-30$ O8 Sit&Go Hyper-Turbo till the new year.
*The guy with the most profit on these wins the bet.

Deal?

nope, half year is too long, do a month then. 1 month, most winnings, rakeback will be included.

No rakeback. 4 months is minimum then.

EDIT: About rude things - I didn't say any to you dude. I just typed it's nice to be on upswing.

whats the point in not including rakeback lol ? i cant go for long bet since i will stop playing poker full time in near future.. if you think you have an edge, i dont see why you wouldnt go for 1 month aswell

I probably might have an edge against you that's why I am going for a longterm.

Offering me 1 week bet is hilarious cause it's almost like a gambling if we are talking about hypers. 1 month imo is still too less.

What's your status? How are we going to define how much from rakeback each player managed to make?

we would just go with 37 % rakeback for both, no matter what you status is, i am supernova so thats exactly my rakeback, if you`re less than supernova we can still calculate 37 % for you as we will know how much rake we paid.

Then rakeback might be ok for me. What about a term of the bet? Imo 4 months is ok for both sides though I'm not happy thinking about grinding for hours in summer holidays :P

i probably start working in a company in about 3 months so no, i cant do a longer bet.

Then 3 months?

The end of the bet would be 31.08, so less than 3 months.


EDIT: You know what.. After rethinking about the bet I don't think it is worth losing summer time for the 1k$ though it would be nice to have some motivation to grind. So I am out. GL at the tables and GL in your new future work.

gl, but dont talk with or about me anymore at tables then. pls

Just to resolve the misunderstanding and finish the chapter. Like I told you. It wasn't directly towards you and I didn't insult you in anyway.

The phrase "It's nice to be on upswing and push any4" was just my babbling/trash talk which you ignored. That's all but unfortunately I can't do as you request so you will have to ignore chat.

By the way. If you manage to have some free time for online poker in the future I will be almost always happy to make a similiriar bet with you but summer is the worst time.

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Good for everyone that bookie is already resting after shipping SCOOP. Can't see him as often as I used to be :P

k, I blocked your table chat. I'm still in for short term bets, you can challenge me here everytime.

^^ So two guys that outdraw me constantly now wish to outdraw each other instead. I am supportive of this movement.

Hyper-turbos are little more than a lottery though. If one player starts running like johnniewalk then it's game over. I personally have broken even from hypers over like 6 months. Shocking loses to biood, ziem, bokkie, johnnie, hun, wadzon, bull, yawn, yawn, yawn, in every session played.

I wish you guys would realise sooner rather than later that H-T is a lotto VPP-accrual system with little relation to actual poker. Even if one of you won this challenge by > 1000 buy-ins, I still wouldn't take it seriously.

its actually quite some skill or how can bokkie win 20k in 5 months in these games ? just by luck ?... everytime you have a close decision you need lots of knowledge to do the right play. same in NLH 6 max hypers... there are people with sick winnings post-rakeback over years...

Looks there is a tough job ahead for getting you to accept the hypers...I have +50 buy-ins ev, nada real. And still think I'm a winner...

i begin my challenge)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17.../#post43604146

gl premove hope ya do it. whens your end date? doing good so far, i couldnt win a spin vs you today lol

75-90 days without holiday (100-120 days with holidays)

not very long then, why did u only start with $100 though?

See you SAY that but in HT most decisions are on virtual auto-pilot (assuming you know how to play the game).

Even if you have perfectly-honed skills and play a flawless game, you still need to hit 67/33s. 60/40s, 52/48s, several times per game.

If you just look at stats, juicy_j_93 and wadzon are 2 of the best HT players, right? So how do JJ or wadzon lose $7-12K in short time periods? Just **** players? Well maybe haha but no, it's just that someone else is earning at a rate of $7-12K over the same horizon by luckboxing everything.

I would pick johnniewalk and bokkie over phil ivey and phil hellmuth in 6-max HT. Doesn't matter how the phil's play, it's just child's play for the other 2. For sure bokkie is one of the very best HT players but without the "random" road-running, he wouldn't make anything like $20K in 5 months.

$100*100 = $10k

easy game
Round and Round

surely theres a lower skill gap at holdem hypers but there are players with similar profits at same stakes, so it can be done just gotta put the hours in n play good all the time, sure there's alot of luck involved in the short term but long term it will balance out.

also ur saying bookie runs good all the time but im sure he hasnt been very profitable the past 2 months (minus the big mtt scores) sure he was nearly +20k in april?

Easy game? I wish you GL because you are seriously gonna need it!

To earn at the rate you suggest would require you to match the best numbers anyone has ever posted thus far. To ask yourself to play well AND be lucky over such an extended period is asking too much

*rolleyes* you just doesnt have a big idea of the game. even I bet i would make 20k pretty easyly in these games in 5 months, atleast including rakeback