I'm about to try out the $1.50 NL hypers. The reason is the PL sngs are so very dead. Sngs are nice that way that you can play tournaments without investing lots of time. Feel I need an alternative to the PL cash games, maybe this is it. Will of course try out turbos too. And why not the "regular" ones, looks even those exist

Thanks , I'm going to take this 5k+ downswing and use it as motivation to play more and do some more work on my game so who knows maybe it will be beneficial in the long run. I see Janiosmo is on a similar downswing currently as well. It makes me wonder who is winning in those games right now. I guess whatever randoms sit down right now are blessed with the run good.

I don't know about your stakes, but at the 7s-30s sergei and waterboa (after he hit a huge downswing) are defintely on an at least 2-week long heater

Unbelievable, just shipped the first NL hyper I've played! Twenty minutes, I like that.

Now I'm in for the blows too.

Sorry bro have had some run goot recently

Believe me though we all run like crap sometimes

I'm curious as to the sort of adjustments you would make. Care to share a little?

Waterboa and his 30+ roi in 200s lol I got a feeling another downswing might be coming his was shortly

Shipped the second one as well. Talking about a small heater. Final hand, lol:

Poker Stars $1.40+$0.10 No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t30/t60 Blinds + t6 - 2 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN/SB): t2078 M = 20.37
BB: t922 M = 9.04

Pre Flop: (t102) Hero is BTN/SB with 9 T Q 8
Hero calls t30, BB checks

Flop: (t132) 9 9 Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t2012 all in, BB calls t856 all in

Turn: (t1844) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: (t1844) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t1844
Hero shows 9 T Q 8 (HI: a full house, Queens full of Nines)
BB shows 9 K 6 6 (HI: three of a kind, Nines)
Hero wins t1844

On average you will face better opposition at high stakes so being a little bit smarter with the weaker part of playing range, especially at the first two blind levels, seems like an appropriate adjustment IMO.

Luring the fish in and keeping them delusional!! Is that why you are so nice to me Bob

I don't get this.

For the most part people who are any good don't make mistakes in the 1st two blind levels. People just play solid and call a lot tighter IMO.

So to people who call tighter you want to shove tighter and for people who call looser you want to shove looser?

I get the feeling that you have made the assumption that I just have selected a range of hands to play and shove or call with this range always. In actuality this couldn't be father from the truth. My vpip in the first few levels of blinds in 100s is quite a bit different than it is in 7s. Without going to much into my strategy when and why I shove often has very little to do with what I'm holding and more to do with how I feel other players at the table will react to my shove. Also the first few levels of a 100 play quite similarly to what you would see at a NLO8 cash game table with a bunch of short stacks. I'm very comfortable in these situations even against these tougher players as I did profit close to 20k in the 50-60k hands I played short stacking 3-6 last year and I also use to short stack the 5-10 games with success that use to run on Full Tilt a few years ago.

That's kinda not giving anything too revelatory away. That's what anyone decent does!!

What I don't get is maybe how you manage to make this seemingly subtle judgment call over 10+ tables. I suppose the player pool is reasonably small though and you played enough volume how to adjust to everyone.

Without watching (and after reading Stek's comments), I assume you are adjusting to exploiting better player's early play ranges, exactly how I would do against "better" players.

Well I have always been a quick thinker and able to process and absorb information fast which helps with muli tabling and certainly the things you mentioned are big factors as well.

Correct but imo its not much different than exploiting a bad player. I look for ways to exploit every player at the table no matter what the stakes.

Your opposition may learn this and exploit it. When the "threat" isn't backed up with "real power" one has to be careful.

How about playing some hypers at lower levels, to break the downward spiral? Not even variance probably can prevent you from winning there, according to my short experience.

Well I do play plenty of small games as well depending on traffic. I am dropping 200s for awhile until I get things back on track.

Just won the third $1.50 6 players hyper in a row. Almost not fun anymore (especially when you know it can't last, not with this success rate ). Maybe I've found my game for the nearest future though, looks you can build a roll there, I need it for playing higher. The competition feels almost as the one I had at play money

Did at least one serious mistake in the following sng I just played, a 18 man: not seeing I had a straight . And then we had the last hand where I went all in, with just one ace, against a player who was already in, and had me covered:


Poker Stars $1.32+$0.18 No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds + t50 - 3 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): t5571 M = 5.31
BB: t14468 M = 13.78
BTN: t6961 M = 6.63
Pre Flop: (t1050) Hero is SB with A 7 9 T
BTN calls t600, Hero raises to t5521 all in, 1 fold, BTN calls t4921

Flop: (t11792) 7 Q 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t11792) 8 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t11792) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t11792
Hero shows A 7 9 T (HI: two pair, Eights and Sevens)
BTN shows J Q T J (HI: two pair, Queens and Eights)
BTN wins t11792

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation[/URL]

1,086,008 trials (Exhaustive)

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
Ad 7s 9h Th	53.56%	441,960	441,960	4,116	476,864	0
Jh Qc Td Js	46.44%	364,623	639,932	4,116	0	0

Finished 3rd. Phantastic, four cashes in a row. Will not report more now before I've played at least 20 sngs, to spare you.

Here is my graph for hypers this year. Variance is real.

How does the all-in adjusted graph look? Maybe also using big blinds instead of dollars would give some additional information in the graph.

I'm not sure there is any software that shows an accurate all in adjusted graph for O8 sngs. In terms of chip EV I'm under EV at certain stakes and over EV at others but even with that I have about 5k tournaments from this year that I dont have in my database and chip EV is not always the most accurate way of determining things either. I definitely feel like I have ran under EV overall this year but as to how much I could only speculate.

In Poker Tracker 4 there is a stat for tournaments named "My Currency Net Adjusted" where the all-in equity is taken into account. When I had that good run in the beginning, the real winnings were better than the "My C Net Adjusted". Now that stat already has come nearer the real winnings, and nice to se it is growing too. Of course it's not even near the entire truth, but should be closer than the real winnings anyway.

I use PT4 as well. The C net adjusted just is not very accurate and is probably something you should not pay to much attention to. Also 3 handed all in pots still tend to be a bit screwy on the chip ev graphs. Really PT4 is best used for O8 hypers by getting hands on your opponents and then running simulations yourself to formulate your proper shove and calling ranges against them.

Given the average stakes you been playing through that graph it appears you havnt experienced any real negative varience up untill this point. Looks around 30BI your highest stakes.

Considering you can not expect to maintain high single digit rois at the higher stakes, it might be worth while searching for holdem hyper graphs to wet your pants at. 100 buy in plus downswings are going to be extremly common in a 6 max format with low single digit rois.

As I mentioned before I was definitely expecting a downswing in 100s and having an overall downswing like this is something I was prepared for. It is not something that has effected me all that much other than I have to drop playing 200s for the time being. I mostly posted the graphs to make fun of myself/show people what kind of variance they can expect playing these. I'm seriously considering making a run at Supernova Elite next year playing a mix of O8 hypers/cash/mtts so I guess I better get used to the swings now.