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03-16-2014 , 04:13 AM

#1076

Wallhallen

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,454

Very impressive wadzon!

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03-16-2014 , 04:27 AM

#1077

wadzon

enthusiast

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 69

thank you all

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Originally Posted by broken_jia

Hope you're still aiming for SNE. #youcandoit

Spoiler:

January - 105к VPP

in Feb - 50к... cancelled 20bb in cashe

March - try hyper H/L + 18 max holdem

Spoiler:

rake - 5,4k
If I don't have a lot to lose in 18 max - the SNE is quite real

In hyper H/L for as much rake no ((

Last edited by wadzon; 03-16-2014 at 04:36 AM.

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03-16-2014 , 04:55 AM

#1078

manndl

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,469

congrats wadzon!
have u considered opting in here?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=167
it would be easier for us to follow your success

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03-16-2014 , 05:27 AM

#1079

wadzon

enthusiast

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 69

thank you manndl

made:

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03-16-2014 , 09:17 AM

#1080

FlyingDutchman

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 635

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Originally Posted by niss

was I close?

For a regular apfelstrudel, but a superior one is spelled den

Nice march, Wadzon.

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03-16-2014 , 09:30 AM

#1081

HighTillIDieT4L

banned

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 729

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Originally Posted by wadzon

thank you all

Spoiler:

January - 105к VPP

in Feb - 50к... cancelled 20bb in cashe

March - try hyper H/L + 18 max holdem

Spoiler:

rake - 5,4k
If I don't have a lot to lose in 18 max - the SNE is quite real

In hyper H/L for as much rake no ((

You will get the 1,000,000 badge by the end of the month at this rate ........ congrats.

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03-16-2014 , 10:37 AM

#1082

adacan

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,276

gogogo wadzon!

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03-16-2014 , 01:53 PM

#1083

skele701

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 134

Nice job, wadzon! Beast.

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03-20-2014 , 02:12 PM

#1084

flipya4dinna

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 524

first level of a hyper 10/20 blinds 2 ante

UTG limps
MP goes all in for 30 chips
fold, fold, fold
BB calls 10

After this action what now is UTGS options?

Last edited by flipya4dinna; 03-20-2014 at 02:38 PM.

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03-20-2014 , 02:42 PM

#1085

Brunolf

adept

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 842

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Originally Posted by flipya4dinna

first level of a hyper 10/20 blinds 2 ante

UTG limps
MP goes all in for 30 chips
fold, fold, fold
BB calls 10

After this action what now is UTGS options?

call or fold. raise is no option as UTG already acted in a calling manner and this is no valid raise

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03-20-2014 , 03:40 PM

#1086

flipya4dinna

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 524

Stars seems to disagree.

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $3.32 Buy-in (10/20 blinds, 2 ante) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #25069791

MP: 496 (24.8 bb)
CO: 32 (1.6 bb)
BTN: 466 (23.3 bb)
SB: 1,014 (50.7 bb)
Hero (BB): 496 (24.8 bb)
UTG: 496 (24.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9

UTG calls 20, MP folds, CO raises to 30 and is all-in, 2 folds, Hero calls 10, UTG raises to 494 and is all-in,

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03-20-2014 , 06:58 PM

#1087

billygstar

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 6,115

I think I have seen an invalid raise like this b4 in a hyper. But it so rarely would be a factor I guess no1 cares enough to get it changed.

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03-20-2014 , 08:10 PM

#1088

flipya4dinna

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 524

I care, i would kinda like to know in spots if im closing the action. Ill message support and see what they say.

Extra special even for me today, only played 69 tournys. hu ev 5,794, chips won -16,683

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03-21-2014 , 03:04 PM

#1089

plaaynde

Poker Historian

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 20,183

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Originally Posted by flipya4dinna

I care, i would kinda like to know in spots if im closing the action. Ill message support and see what they say.

I agree, try get it fixed. Min raise is 20, CO raised 10, no right for UTG to do anything but complete after previously making his move.

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03-21-2014 , 05:04 PM

#1090

flipya4dinna

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 524

Well recieved the email from stars asking to take their 1 min customer service survey without recieving a reply from them on the issue.

Any body know who would be the best stars rep on 2+2 to message? see if i can bring it to their attention that way.

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03-21-2014 , 05:25 PM

#1091

plaaynde

Poker Historian

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 20,183

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Originally Posted by flipya4dinna

How about this? forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/pokerstars-software-improvement-thread-119016/

In the last post we have http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/241230/

Looks like a guy who might make things happen.

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03-21-2014 , 07:17 PM

#1092

Wallhallen

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,454

First hand of the tournament. All players involved in this hand are unknowns. Do you fold or call here?

7$ Poker Stars No-Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament, 10/20 Blinds, Ante 2
saw flop

Button (t500)
SB (t500)
Hero (BB) (t500)
UTG (t500)
MP (t500)
CO (t500)

Hero's M: 16.67

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, 2

, Q

, K

1 fold, MP calls t20, CO calls t20, 1 fold, SB calls t10, Hero checks

Flop: (t92) 9

, 10

, 3

(4 players)
SB bets t20, Hero calls t20, MP raises t140, CO raises t478, SB calls t458, Hero ?

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03-21-2014 , 07:29 PM

#1093

streityboy

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,551

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Originally Posted by Wallhallen

, 2

, Q

, K

1 fold, MP calls t20, CO calls t20, 1 fold, SB calls t10, Hero checks

Flop: (t92) 9

, 10

, 3

(4 players)
SB bets t20, Hero calls t20, MP raises t140, CO raises t478, SB calls t458, Hero ?

I think I just fold. What is the best case scenario? One of them has a bare two pair and someone else a lower flush draw. You can be drawing super thin based on the preceding action very easily.

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03-21-2014 , 09:01 PM

#1094

Buzz

gramps

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 18,254

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Originally Posted by Wallhallen

, 2

, Q

, K

1 fold, MP calls t20, CO calls t20, 1 fold, SB calls t10, Hero checks

Flop: (t92) 9

, 10

, 3

(4 players)
SB bets t20, Hero calls t20, MP raises t140, CO raises t478, SB calls t458, Hero ?

I shove all-in and hope the board doesn't pair.

Buzz

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03-22-2014 , 09:46 AM

#1095

flipya4dinna

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 524

cliffs: Stars conciders the sb as a bet pf, so the bb is the initial raise in the hand. Any bet over 1.5bb is then a legitimate raise. The problem is obviously too big a programming job and rare enough for them to concider fixing to comply with the actual rules of the game.

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Thank you for contacting PokerStars.

This player was legally entitled to reopen the betting in this case in accordance with Rule #28 of our Card Room Rules, which states:

"In No Limit and Pot Limit games, the minimum bet will be equal to the big blind. However, PokerStars treats the big blind as a raise of the small blind. That means that pre-flop, any raise in an unopened pot that is equal to or greater than the small blind reopens the action."

Our complete Card Room Rules can be found at:

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/policies/

To further explain this rule, at the start of the hand, our system actually regards the small blind as the original bet and the big blind as the first "raise".

As an example, please consider the following hand with four players and their actions pre-flop:

WelLookyHeA: posts small blind 150
Ranners: posts big blind 300

wildside9: calls 300
Lucinda Luck: folds
Jay_Smith_07: folds
WelLookyHeA: raises 165 to 465 and is all-in
Ranners: calls 165
wildside9: raises 1145 to 1610 and is all-in
Ranners: folds

So as we can see, our server reads this hand as an initial bet of 150 chips, followed by a raise to 300, a call of 300, and then another raise of 165 chips. Since this subsequent raise is at least as much as the previous "raise" in the blinds (150 from the small to big blind) it actually reopens the betting.

This is a situation that actually comes up very rarely in regular game play - there needs to be a player limp in early position, and a player with between 1.5 and 2 big blinds go all-in, and then a third player to call. This combination of stack sizes and player actions is not very common. We have received very few questions about this over the past few years, and at this time we have no plans to make any changes to our rules or our software regarding this issue.

We hope that this information clarifies the play of this hand for you. Please let us know if we can assist you with anything else.

Regards,

Josh

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03-22-2014 , 12:26 PM

#1096

plaaynde

Poker Historian

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 20,183

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Originally Posted by flipya4dinna

SB treated as the original bet and BB as a raise...small lol. Both are forced bets. Good you informed them. They have to stick to the rules they have this time, for not having to do investigations and pay. But hope they consider this when they update their software at some point.

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03-24-2014 , 09:16 PM

#1097

Wallhallen

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,454

Just got some money for placing in Venus high orbit. I had pretty decent score but was surprised that I did not make even top 500 in low orbit. Is it more common for hyper players to get high or low orbit?

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03-25-2014 , 04:00 AM

#1098

streityboy

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,551

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wallhallen

Pretty difficult to do either playing solely hypers. Wp. You must have run hellishly good as well as play decent.

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03-25-2014 , 11:49 AM

#1099

HighTillIDieT4L

banned

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 729

Quote:

Originally Posted by streityboy

Pretty difficult to do either playing solely hypers. Wp. You must have run hellishly good as well as play decent.

For once I agree. It's next to impossible to top the low orbit playing hypers (less points on offer, 39 compared to 61 for winning 18-man games) although I once made 3rd in Neptune high orbit playing only $30 hypers. It's easier to do at higher stakes when 101 holdem grinders aren't posting low orbit scores > 500.

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03-25-2014 , 05:28 PM

#1100

streityboy

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2,551

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighTillIDieT4L

For once I agree. It's next to impossible to top the low orbit playing hypers (less points on offer, 39 compared to 61 for winning 18-man games) although I once made 3rd in Neptune high orbit playing only $30 hypers. It's easier to do at higher stakes when 101 holdem grinders aren't posting low orbit scores > 500.

+1 to that. **** me dude. Careful, almost gave me a heart attack!

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