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09-27-2013 , 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by biood1
would like to know what you guys think about me as i'm fairly new to the game, sn on stars obv biood1
You have very "interesting" hand selection for shoving in early levels.
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09-27-2013 , 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by coon74
I'm not a hyper reg (am having too much fun in turbo MTTs already) but still curious as to what has made biood1 switch over from PLO
had problems to beat plo cash anymore and someday i just decided to play sngs instead of mtt's to not commit for a whole day and just liked it ;D i kinda enjoy them more
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09-28-2013 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Brunolf
lol, let's see where you are in 500 games 40% is defintely not sustainable, even at the lowest stakes
Wouldn't have bothered you with my graph right now if it wasn't for Brunolf's explicit request
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Originally Posted by Angribob
10% would be strong.

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Originally Posted by whitesnow
are 1000 games enough samplesize to judge a players skill?
. Don't know, but WILL post my graph next time when reaching the magic 1000. Hoping that will be a brag, not a player whining, giving creative explanations.

I have played only 10k hands in the hypers, try to play each hand as good as I can, single tabling. Classify me as a beginner. Even a win rate of $2/day will give $700 in a year, more than I have made previously. I do the calculations after close to every tournament, finding a lot of spots to improve on, no business playing higher, have to be among the beginners and let's-give-this-game-a-trys. Being a winner, however small, is the best for me for being able to keep having poker as a relaxing activity.

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09-28-2013 , 07:34 AM
after 1000 games @$30 buyins i had 8% roi. after ~4,5k games i am having -0% roi in that entry level...
and being a winning player and breaking even for a 1k games streak is not that uncommon. the lower your roi the more likely it is to happen.
if you are not one of these mysterious 10% roi grinders the chances are that your graph is going to have big heaters, big downers and loooong Break even streches.

and **** wcoop hyper sng sattelites!
see you guys@ 15$ and 7$ entry level
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09-28-2013 , 09:45 PM
WCOOP satellites are great. Don't register if four players are reg/decent.

My ROI is 10% in everything.
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09-29-2013 , 04:49 AM
and your samplesize is 1000 in everything together.

you could have run horribly and would hate them as well. i did run terrible for the whole month AND played bad- but not worse than your average sng sattelite player.
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09-29-2013 , 05:28 AM
I had 10% ROI after 3600 games $7-30 limit... after 4500 games now i have like 5%.
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09-29-2013 , 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by booink
after 1000 games @$30 buyins i had 8% roi. after ~4,5k games i am having -0% roi in that entry level...
and being a winning player and breaking even for a 1k games streak is not that uncommon. the lower your roi the more likely it is to happen.
if you are not one of these mysterious 10% roi grinders the chances are that your graph is going to have big heaters, big downers and loooong Break even streches.

and **** wcoop hyper sng sattelites!
see you guys@ 15$ and 7$ entry level
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Originally Posted by bakyka
I had 10% ROI after 3600 games $7-30 limit... after 4500 games now i have like 5%.

are opponents better now or you just run worse than before?
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09-29-2013 , 08:37 AM
It's natural for people who run above expectation early to keep playing until their results converge to the mean.

There's value as long as people call in the first hand with any four cards. Happens all the time.

One guy who has -50% ROI gives an average of a few positive % ROI to all the other players after negating the rake.

As long as those guys are sitting then the better players can have higher than 6%-7% average.

Make it two -25% players sitting, and the effect is the same for the other four players.

If you sit with four people who are above average, don't expect to get much value.
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09-29-2013 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by whitesnow
are opponents better now or you just run worse than before?
i think in my case it is more likely that i play worse than in april/may simply because of the lack of playing. i forgot things than i knew half a year ago because i don´t average 150-250 games/day these days (sth. in the line of "in THAT spot i can push THIS range and be always +ev since THIS villian is a nit").

to my current downswing:
i poorly adjusted to the satellite structure AND ran bad AND my already suicidal BRM turned into just plain suicide without any BRM at all

so in short words:lack of discipline and routine led to my recent downswing.
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09-29-2013 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by whitesnow
are opponents better now or you just run worse than before?
Im not sure about the opponents but i think the field is tougher in these days at 7s and 15s (havent played 30s for a while). I usually try to play with table selection, that means i dont register if there are already 3-4 solid guy in.
Im definitely running worse in the last 1k sample but looking it in another prospect maybe i was running way over EV in the first 4500 games. Plus my game is far from perfect, i defintely have leaks. So i think my real ROI should be between 5 and 10% (maybe closer to 5 than 10%). Will let you know how im doing after a 10k sample if i will ever reach that

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Originally Posted by gumaaa
If you sit with four people who are above average, don't expect to get much value.
+1
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09-29-2013 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gumaaa
It's natural for people who run above expectation early to keep playing until their results converge to the mean.

There's value as long as people call in the first hand with any four cards. Happens all the time.

One guy who has -50% ROI gives an average of a few positive % ROI to all the other players after negating the rake.

As long as those guys are sitting then the better players can have higher than 6%-7% average.

Make it two -25% players sitting, and the effect is the same for the other four players.

If you sit with four people who are above average, don't expect to get much value.
...in the long run

i want to add that the higher your ROI is the less likely you are to go on massive 50-100 buyin downswings but they are still waiting for you somewhere down the road.

i just wanted to hint you towards the fact that your true ROI could be a little lower than your current ROI of 10% given the sample size. or higher. because 1000 games are not that much, at least in a hyper structure.
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09-29-2013 , 02:48 PM
hey guys, waltiph told me about a skype group.. can someone add me into that ?
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09-29-2013 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by booink
...in the long run

i want to add that the higher your ROI is the less likely you are to go on massive 50-100 buyin downswings but they are still waiting for you somewhere down the road.

i just wanted to hint you towards the fact that your true ROI could be a little lower than your current ROI of 10% given the sample size. or higher. because 1000 games are not that much, at least in a hyper structure.
Yup. Aware of, and acquainted with, large swings.

Reason I don't auto reg the 100 and 200 level.
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10-07-2013 , 05:58 AM
hey guys, lets get some trash talk going !
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10-07-2013 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
hey guys, lets get some trash talk going !
Go head !
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10-07-2013 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
hey guys, lets get some trash talk going !
Let's face it. We are all just competing to be the next best behind Angri. Where is he these days?
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10-07-2013 , 08:36 PM
Who has time to trash talk and play 1000 hands per hour.
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10-07-2013 , 10:07 PM
Certainly not you gumaaa. Your sessions are usually over after 30 mins, and 70 hands played.
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10-08-2013 , 08:46 AM
Why do you insist on misrepresenting me when you don't play in my games.
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10-08-2013 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gumaaa
Why do you insist on misrepresenting me when you don't play in my games.
I do on occasion, but any observer can note the amount of time and ca. number of hands played.
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10-09-2013 , 02:14 AM
How many VPPs do you think I have? How many do you have?

(Trash talking because I'm not playing.)
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10-09-2013 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by gumaaa
How many VPPs do you think I have? How many do you have?

(Trash talking because I'm not playing.)
I think you may be Supernova, but kinda doubt it. I have over 200K.
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10-09-2013 , 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by streityboy
Let's face it. We are all just competing to be the next best behind Angri. Where is he these days?
he told me to be on a downswing when i asked him... anyway, i can't close the gap this year but I'm in for next years race i just started playing these 1-2 months ago and battling my self up from 3,5 to 30's... wanna be the best in 2014 but atleast give you guys a hard time till the end of this year ) no hate ... oh and btw: do you guys get hatet so much aswell ? lot's of people wish me to die and stuff.. ;((
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10-09-2013 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by biood1
he told me to be on a downswing when i asked him... anyway, i can't close the gap this year but I'm in for next years race i just started playing these 1-2 months ago and battling my self up from 3,5 to 30's... wanna be the best in 2014 but atleast give you guys a hard time till the end of this year ) no hate ... oh and btw: do you guys get hatet so much aswell ? lot's of people wish me to die and stuff.. ;((
People getting pissy with you is one of the fun things that you can enjoy at the tables. I just laugh when I see someone blow up.
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