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11-23-2014 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hero Value
Poker Stars $75+$7 No Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t250 - 7 players - View hand 2614819
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UTG+1: t94519 M = 19.90
MP: t78837 M = 16.60
CO: t90274 M = 19.01
BTN: t16806 M = 3.54
SB: t36550 M = 7.69
Hero (BB): t70186 M = 14.78
UTG: t50822 M = 10.70

Pre Flop: (t4750) Hero is BB with 5 K 8 K
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t4000, MP calls t4000, CO calls t4000, BTN calls t4000, 1 fold, Hero calls t2000

Flop: (t22750) 3 K 3 (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: (t22750) Q (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t6000, MP folds, CO folds, BTN folds, Hero raises to t18500, UTG+1 calls t12500

River: (t59750) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets t47436 all in, UTG+1 calls t47436

Spoiler:
Final Pot: t154622
UTG+1 shows 4 3 Q 3 (HI: four of a kind, Threes)
Hero shows 5 K 8 K (HI: a full house, Kings full of Threes)
UTG+1 wins t154622


So stupidly ****ing gross. Why do I have to bust like that? Especially when villain (a well-known pro) scummily times for about 10 seconds before calling river. Not to mention his ****ing terrible open utg. Sigh.
UL....... river K would have been nice i guess you finished in the top 10 ?
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11-23-2014 , 08:14 PM
Nope.
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11-23-2014 , 09:40 PM
a pokerstars pro hero-value?!

The a46k hand do u have any stats on villain?!

30-40 vpip i might fold
Cooler against 25vpip>
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11-24-2014 , 06:39 AM
No. But he's a coach on a training site for example.
And no, no stars or reads/info.
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11-25-2014 , 06:22 AM
Np that happens i understand your disapointment since You play very solid hands from what I see in your posts ., but this one hand Will not block You from winning future tourneys !! Gl
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11-26-2014 , 09:17 AM
sigh i´m too stupid for MTTs
i really thought i would win this hand




    Poker Stars, $3 Buy-in (80/160 blinds) Pot Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32942622

    MP3: 9,020 (56.4 bb)
    CO: 2,092 (13.1 bb)
    BTN: 5,598 (35 bb)
    SB: 11,587 (72.4 bb)
    BB: 2,989 (18.7 bb)
    UTG+1: 14,194 (88.7 bb)
    UTG+2: 4,884 (30.5 bb)
    MP1: 11,505 (71.9 bb)
    Hero (MP2): 7,596 (47.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 3 A 5 4
    UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls 160, MP1 folds, Hero raises to 451, MP3 calls 451, CO calls 451, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls 291

    Flop: (2,044) 2 K 3 (4 players)
    UTG+2 checks, Hero bets 2,044, MP3 calls 2,044, 2 folds

    Turn: (6,132) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets 5,101 and is all-in, MP3 calls 5,101

    River: (16,334) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Results: 16,334 pot
    Final Board: 2 K 3 3 K
    MP3 showed A T 8 K and won 16,334 (8,738 net)
    Hero showed 3 A 5 4 and lost (-7,596 net)



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    11-26-2014 , 09:26 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hero Value
    No. But he's a coach on a training site for example.
    And no, no stars or reads/info.
    zero fun if you don't out the name....
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    11-26-2014 , 09:33 AM
    has any1 seen this or any opinions on it? I saw the teamo8 ava on rivermenow pokerstars and wondered what it was so I had a look.

    http://teamo8.com/

    he does the videos. I watched a couple. Probably quite good for beginner. countergeiter, maybe you should take a look think inside the box remember!

    seems to be staking total beginners for micros. I doubt I would have the patience for that and doubt you would make much money if any but good on em for the site. It looks pretty decent.

    your welcome rivermenow for the marketing

    he's been at my table quite a bit lately an di been playin super loose. Hope I'm in 1 of his videos and get flamed
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    11-26-2014 , 10:39 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by billygstar
    has any1 seen this or any opinions on it? I saw the teamo8 ava on rivermenow pokerstars and wondered what it was so I had a look.

    http://teamo8.com/


    your welcome rivermenow for the marketing
    I came across this a while back. Someone I knew (a much better player than some of teamo8), was trying to get staking but apparently they no longer stake - they just leave the form up on the website and links all over the internet for staking that is no longer available. Hmm I wonder why?

    As for the "team" itself, I had a suspicion they would be idiots (who isn't, right billy?) and if "rivermenow" is in any way involved in strategy or anything like that, it just isn't worth getting involved in - I've been playing with that player for a significant period and he is so weak with betting and exploitable with tells (on-line!!!) that I thought he was a holdem fish on crossover.
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    11-26-2014 , 08:27 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by billygstar
    sorry but that is just absolute bollocks lol. yeah I find it real hard to transition to low stakes mtts lol.
    Look man, that was a back-handed compliment - I was kinda saying that you make plays that are beyond donkeys. You've seen enough LOLtards to know you can't bluff an idiot. Q high flush is plenty good enough.

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    I play way more mtt volume than you quantum and not just in o8 or on stars. I play all games and always at least 2 sites. You should remember that while your 2 tabling your o8 mtts in nitty fashion.
    I play o8 sngs pretty much 100% of every session, playing 2-7 tables. Then I usually have 3-5 mtts, maybe a cash table if I'm feeling lucky, odd time hypers too and sats. Rarely do I drop below 5 tables and I multi-site.

    I should send you my HH for today, or any other day, and your jaw would drop at the plays I am making. I love my nit image. Today in a cash game, after posting a VPIP of 5%, I re-re-raised (u guys call it 3bet) my mark with 3 4 5 5 ds. Flop was A A 9. Villain bets, I flat. Villain leads turn, another 9, I re-raise, villain calls. Turn is a K. Villain checks. I'm all-in. Villain folds and shows A 3 5 T ds. I show 3 4 5 5, tilt the life outta him, have his stack and 2 re-loads in 5 mins

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    All you seem to do is question some standard hands we play but he w.e up to you ha
    Listen bro, I'm not gonna try to help you after this. I'm not being overly critical but you don't see your mistakes. I make mistakes ALL THE TIME. I think I improve because in every aspect of life, I am HAPPY to be proven wrong. I enjoy debate and love it when people catch me out, force me to be humble. It gives me joy to see through others' eyes and learn from them. Each of us is a universe in himself, a precious resource not to be ignored.

    U need me to be humble first? Man I dunno why I would help you but here goes. You were dissing me for bet sizing at one point. I was being over-aggro because it was you and u think me nitty but I still took it on board. I started looking more closely at my own sizing in every situ in neutral conditions and while you didn't tell me what to bet or when, just being alert to my own actions helped me understand myself and others better.

    I said many times about the players I "assimilated" to improve my own game. You need to assimilate my maestro, personal. Under NO circumstance would personal raise A 3 4 7 ms from utg + 1, on the bubble, with a stack that could survive to ITM with 100% folds. That you don't see that raise and flop play as a MASSIVE error, humbly, is why you haven't done as well this year as you expected to.

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    and lol at that nit natedog complaining about me raising blah blah UTG. Like yawnkiss he is a huge nit nutpeddler and not even a very good one at that.
    I agree with this and think you are better than both, although honestly, yawnkiss is learning and will soon be better if you don't adjust.

    As for the stuff about running bad, pff, for 100 days I have been within 10% of the bubble (on wrong side) in > 50% of all games played. You think that doesn't tilt the **** outta me? There are a number of idiots like ladytzo, a.girl.hit.u, creativity99, etc, etc, who I dropped maybe 45 scoops in a row to, all with the best hand in mtts. It's soul destroying. I still post + ROI (a ****ty 11%) in the worst of times because ......... personal showed me how to respect the opposition and fold mediocre hands OOP.
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    11-26-2014 , 08:38 PM
    sorry but i don't need your help quantum. I think deep down you know that already.

    thanks for the offer though
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    11-26-2014 , 08:39 PM
    yawnkiss is lol easy to play against btw..as is natedog. i would happily have 8 of either of em at my table
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    11-26-2014 , 08:45 PM
      Poker Stars, $20 Buy-in (75/150 blinds) Pot Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 7 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32959182

      virumaas (MP3): 4,443 (29.6 bb)
      atsea (CO): 1,019 (6.8 bb)
      wawan(vladi) (BTN): 15,784 (105.2 bb)
      Hero (SB): 13,845 (92.3 bb)
      Prof_Boff (BB): 10,045 (67 bb)
      xQuantum1 (MP1): 7,070 (47.1 bb)
      COUGAR485 (MP2): 2,125 (14.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A 4 K 9
      xQuantum1 folds, COUGAR485 calls 150, 2 folds, wawan(vladi) calls 150, Hero completes, Prof_Boff raises to 750, COUGAR485 calls 600, wawan(vladi) calls 600, Hero calls 600

      Flop: (3,000) 6 K T (4 players)
      Hero checks, Prof_Boff checks, COUGAR485 bets 1,375 and is all-in, wawan(vladi) calls 1,375, Hero raises to 6,000, 2 folds

      Turn: (7,125) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: (7,125) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: 7,125 pot
      Final Board: 6 K T Q J
      wawan(vladi) mucked and lost (-2,125 net)
      Hero showed A 4 K 9 and won 7,125 (5,000 net)
      Prof_Boff mucked and lost (-750 net)
      COUGAR485 showed Q 5 2 A and lost (-2,125 net)



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      your right though i run super good and hit royal flushes for fun.

      SB was a massive donk and coulda had anything but was folding to my aggression a Cpl of times although i prolly didn't want him to fold. prof is a solid TAG and i don't think would ever get bare aces in. easy game
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      11-26-2014 , 09:10 PM
        Poker Stars, $20 Buy-in (200/400 blinds) Pot Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 5 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32959222

        pkh89 (SB): 52,214 (130.5 bb)
        Hero (BB): 16,365 (40.9 bb)
        joe1224 (MP): 25,859 (64.6 bb)
        xQuantum1 (CO): 6,800 (17 bb)
        farfaccc (BTN): 10,231 (25.6 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with A 5 K 4
        joe1224 folds, xQuantum1 raises to 1,200, farfaccc calls 1,200, pkh89 folds, Hero calls 800

        Flop: (3,800) K T 6 (3 players)
        Hero checks, xQuantum1 bets 3,800, farfaccc folds, Hero raises to 7,600, xQuantum1 calls 1,800 and is all-in

        Turn: (15,000) K (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: (15,000) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Results: 15,000 pot
        Final Board: K T 6 K 8
        Hero showed A 5 K 4 and lost (-6,800 net)
        xQuantum1 showed Q 6 7 A and won 15,000 (8,200 net)
        farfaccc mucked and lost (-1,200 net)



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        yeah you can continue to tell everyone that you run super bad and bubble everything when from what i see this is not running bad OTB.

        But as i tried to tell you it's been a standard pattern for me all year on money bubbles for me to lose these kind of hands when i gii ahead.

        And yes my bust in 9th w/e i don't care and lady pots anything anyway and 2 pair isn't in terrible shape v draws and i was short anyway. i go for top 3's not limp into 7th although i seem to have been getting an awful lot lately. Not to mention ahead of many a2 hands.

        gl at ft i guess.

        Last edited by billygstar; 11-26-2014 at 09:21 PM.
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        11-26-2014 , 09:16 PM
          Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32959232

          redjirka (UTG+2): 50,661 (50.7 bb)
          dani fw (MP1): 46,006 (46 bb)
          olimar2410 (MP2): 9,431 (9.4 bb)
          SuperChicken (MP3): 15,412 (15.4 bb)
          zidrax (CO): 17,143 (17.1 bb)
          Abra301 (BTN): 30,008 (30 bb)
          Hero (SB): 13,135 (13.1 bb)
          lachim70 (BB): 23,687 (23.7 bb)
          liorsini (UTG+1): 76,916 (76.9 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is SB with K A
          4 folds, SuperChicken raises to 2,200, 2 folds, Hero raises to 13,010 and is all-in, lachim70 folds, SuperChicken calls 10,810

          Flop: (28,145) 6 7 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
          Turn: (28,145) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)
          River: (28,145) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

          Results: 28,145 pot
          Final Board: 6 7 2 Q T
          SuperChicken showed Q A and won 28,145 (15,010 net)
          Hero showed K A and lost (-13,135 net)



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          Oh and my standard bust in nlhe when the money humps and big pots come. All year.

          Oh and btw i don't mind if u bust klippz..hes massive big mouth horrid donk

          ladyzo is pretty terrible too but runs super good..thats why i just went with a3 as i knew she just pots her whole range. obv has aces and i drawing thin
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          11-26-2014 , 09:54 PM
          i hope lady smashed all u annoying clowns..at least hes not annoyin as fk like u and klippz

          i laugh pretty hard at klippz thougha s he is just so terrible yet seems to be totally deluded to that fact.

          You know understand right quantum??
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          11-26-2014 , 10:21 PM
          Quote:
          Originally Posted by billygstar
          i hope lady smashed all u annoying clowns..at least hes not annoyin as fk like u and klippz

          i laugh pretty hard at klippz thougha s he is just so terrible yet seems to be totally deluded to that fact.

          You know understand right quantum??
          No lady is terrible as u said. She is on a run of 20 + hands vs me, stretching back to when we made HU in a mtt a month ago. Klippz just cracked my AA4K ds with A 4 6 9 rainbow LOL. Snapcall is only good player left but some dude called joe is donking everyone. Joe or lady will win.

          As for my hand with the A 6 7 Q ds, i was just flat out gambling. I had resigned myself to busting on bubble but was gonna make sure and be aggro about it. I guess if u re-raised pre I MIGHT have folded. I would def have folded hand before when you had A 2 Q K, if you had re-raised pre.

          BUT, AS IT WAS, I was favourite on flop, so you can't say that's run good. The exact numbers are:

          Scoop: 52% vs 35%
          Hi: 64% vs 38%
          Lo: 1.1% vs 25%

          Defo not a bad beat if I manage a 17% margin OTF, when all the money went in
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          11-26-2014 , 10:32 PM
          yea its a flip actually. You doin anything other than gii would be soooo nitty .you need to use pokerprotools i think btw. And ye after that turn was a bit sick. My decision was tougher whether to gii or not than yours. Easy stack off for you obv.

          ye its fine..totally standard and i was just pointing out that its not only you that cant win flips or gii ahead on money bubbles. I have had problems all year when the money jumps come.

          anyway no biggy..just making a point that your not so hard done by all the time. And you defo are not the only one.

          lady can be ok sometimes but bad in some spots but seems like a nice guy. klippz is just a lol idiot.

          It's idiots regs like klipzz and lol semtex that i just run super bad against. Or most spewy donks for that matter. I seem to run fine in general,v decent solid TAGS and tight players. So its likely i probably do run decent or even good against you.
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          11-26-2014 , 10:40 PM
            Poker Stars, $24.55 Buy-in (700/1,400 blinds, 175 ante) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 7 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32959312

            bb60012 (MP3): 14,629 (10.4 bb)
            Przemo_88 (CO): 31,423 (22.4 bb)
            Pandick (BTN): 90,465 (64.6 bb)
            SilentPurple (SB): 8,463 (6 bb)
            snovalshik1 (BB): 41,789 (29.8 bb)
            rosebud2252 (MP1): 10,225 (7.3 bb)
            Hero (MP2): 41,860 (29.9 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A J A T
            rosebud2252 folds, Hero raises to 41,685 and is all-in, 4 folds, snovalshik1 calls 40,214 and is all-in

            Flop: (85,153) 8 3 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
            Turn: (85,153) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
            River: (85,153) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)

            Results: 85,153 pot
            Final Board: 8 3 2 6 K
            snovalshik1 showed 6 2 4 A and won 85,153 (43,364 net)
            Hero showed A J A T and lost (-41,789 net)



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            a few minutes ago on omania 27. Point in case. 22 left and may as well open shove good high aces.

            Obv the terribad Russian **** snap calls his 30 bb stack with just a low hand. ok a good low hand but its still never a call for 30 bb.

            And as usual the terribad Russian will get there. boring.

            Last edited by billygstar; 11-26-2014 at 10:56 PM.
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            11-26-2014 , 11:12 PM
            ^^ Hey man I feel ya, it sucks to lose to idiots who can't fold. I know it's not just me but nobody can compete with my bad luck. Even guys that don't like me, like you, parris, lady etc, would all agree I run sensationally bad. OK I won a hand vs you on the bubble but I was quite a big fav for o8. Still amazed I didn't bubble.

            In the last 2 things you posted (excluding hand vs me), u were unlucky and had no real choice, but other times, like in o27 last night, you push your luck too far. In a big game, guys just aren't gonna flip with you pre with A 2 4 6, even ds, but most people are ****ing idiots in lower stakes. When I get high ds aces these days I'm never looking to GII pre, especially not on the bubble when you KNOW you're gonna get dicked.

            It sucks to play poker in a fashion that compensates for the bull **** pokerstars spews out but it's the only thing to do on-line. Clearly, the donks are favoured. Clearly, certain players are on permanent run-good and CLEARLY, you NEVER play on the bubble on pokerstars unless you have a big stack. Nope, nothing to do with ICM or poker odds, everything to do with the FACT there are protected species on pokerstars and u ain't one of em. Personal NEVER utters any words to that effect but his actions speak volumes. I do the same and am folding aces on the bubble all the time - mostly because any time I play, I bust to a ****ing donkey or a luckbox reg like lady. Call it nitty if you want, I prefer clinically cynical.
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            11-26-2014 , 11:47 PM
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            Originally Posted by billygstar
            [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $24.55 Buy-in (700/1,400 blinds, 175 ante) No Limit Omaha H/L Tournament, 7 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32959312

            bb60012 (MP3): 14,629 (10.4 bb)
            Przemo_88 (CO): 31,423 (22.4 bb)
            Pandick (BTN): 90,465 (64.6 bb)
            SilentPurple (SB): 8,463 (6 bb)
            snovalshik1 (BB): 41,789 (29.8 bb)
            rosebud2252 (MP1): 10,225 (7.3 bb)
            Hero (MP2): 41,860 (29.9 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A J A T
            rosebud2252 folds, Hero raises to 41,685 and is all-in, 4 folds, snovalshik1 calls 40,214 and is all-in
            now having the chip lead should i be calling this with aak5 knowing id only drop to second in chips, or as im assumed correctly this is a bad aa shove


            ul billy russians been donking all way to ft gg


            As for omania 27 bubbles ive gone out with aa three times this month. This was just a gift as we were both top two stacks average 19k

            http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...544_2999F4C4F2

            Last edited by pandick; 11-27-2014 at 12:00 AM.
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            11-27-2014 , 12:06 AM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by pandick
            now having the chip lead should i be calling this with aak5 knowing id only drop to second in chips, or as im assumed correctly this is a bad aa shove


            ul billy russians been donking all way to ft gg


            As for omania 27 bubbles ive gone out with aa three times this month. This was just a gift as we were both top two stacks average 19k

            http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-h...544_2999F4C4F2
            i think you made a typo. I think you said you had akk5. Which yes is a fold to most villains shoving 30 bb from UTG.

            As you say you have a big stack and losing 40k hurts you much more than you benefit adding 40k to your already big stack. Ok you do get the chance to bust the bust 1 of the good players left in but i have aces soooo often there and if not aces a very big hand although i would usually just open with a ak23 type hands. Unless i was sure theer was some1 like in the bb that would call with an average ace hand.
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            11-27-2014 , 12:12 AM
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            Originally Posted by The_Exile
            ^^ Hey man I feel ya, it sucks to lose to idiots who can't fold. I know it's not just me but nobody can compete with my bad luck. Even guys that don't like me, like you, parris, lady etc, would all agree I run sensationally bad. OK I won a hand vs you on the bubble but I was quite a big fav for o8. Still amazed I didn't bubble.

            In the last 2 things you posted (excluding hand vs me), u were unlucky and had no real choice, but other times, like in o27 last night, you push your luck too far. In a big game, guys just aren't gonna flip with you pre with A 2 4 6, even ds, but most people are ****ing idiots in lower stakes. When I get high ds aces these days I'm never looking to GII pre, especially not on the bubble when you KNOW you're gonna get dicked.

            It sucks to play poker in a fashion that compensates for the bull **** pokerstars spews out but it's the only thing to do on-line. Clearly, the donks are favoured. Clearly, certain players are on permanent run-good and CLEARLY, you NEVER play on the bubble on pokerstars unless you have a big stack. Nope, nothing to do with ICM or poker odds, everything to do with the FACT there are protected species on pokerstars and u ain't one of em. Personal NEVER utters any words to that effect but his actions speak volumes. I do the same and am folding aces on the bubble all the time - mostly because any time I play, I bust to a ****ing donkey or a luckbox reg like lady. Call it nitty if you want, I prefer clinically cynical.
            on my bubble in omania yesterday i had a385 is somthin OTB with 9 bb. I have FE and bubble or no bubble i am shoving that when it folds right to me. It's I am mostly winning the pot uncontested and when i do get called i am never a huge dog. Folding there OTB is so nitty. I will find the hand and see what ppl think. But yes even inc ICM i am sure the maths says shove is +ev. Maybe the great booid can confirm.
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            11-27-2014 , 06:51 PM
            I'm calling

            edit: I am calling with aak5.
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            11-27-2014 , 07:52 PM
            yea so would i be with aak5 ha..but it was akk5.
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