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Old 08-13-2020, 12:03 PM   #1
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NLO8 $16.50 - Final Table spot

High only aces, 3rd of 4 with a short stack in the bb.

I'm fairly new to this game, unsure of how to play this spot completely. As it goes, I went for glory (and obviously lost hehe). Does it play best as an open jam? I'd love to know what you guys think.

Villain 3 has done this same move vs me once earlier with 4 remaining and the stacks at a similar size.




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Old 08-13-2020, 01:56 PM   #2
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Re: NLO8 $16.50 - Final Table spot

a hand history converted is much preferred to the screenshot.
ie. the 300 antes would be explicit as would starting stacks sizes etc.

here is data of alternative outcomes utilizing ICM
(stacks are 1st column and ICM value of stacks is 2nd column (using the payouts given)

1.hero bets 4800 and folds to sb shove(a btn shove wouldn't differ much)

121,317 $212.13
209,018 $241.64
170,481 $230.09
24,184 $154.00

alternative 1 Hero bets 26,584 and folds to a shove by sb(a btn shove wouldn't differ much)

99,533 $203.43
209,018 $242.31
192,265 $237.55
24,184 $154.57


2.hero bets or shoves and all fold

130,917 $215.79
209,018 $241.47
160,881 $226.72
24,184 $153.87


3. hero bets and calls a shove by sb

3a. hero scoops
25,834 $258.19
209,018 $247.08
35,964 $171.98
24,184 $160.61

3b. sb scoops
0 $136.38
209,018 $252.27
291,798 $269.34
24,184 $179.88

3c. hero/sb split 50/50
128,517 $214.88
209,018 $241.51
163,281 $227.57
24,184 $153.90

3d,3e 75/25 splits


4. hero bets and allin with bb

4a. hero scoops
155,109 $227.93
209,018 $243.76
160,881 $229.79
0 $136.38

4b. bb scoops
99,533 $199.27
209,018 $239.87
160,881 $224.65
55,568 $174.07

4c. hero/bb split 50/50
128,517 $214.56
209,018 $241.30
160,881 $226.50
26,584 $155.50

4d,4e 75/25 splits

other outcomes are possible:
1. when bb calls making it a 3way allin.....made more unlikely when hero has AA as well as is highly speculative for bb to get involved
2. btn rather than sb is the shover or caller of hero's shove. (shouldn't differ significantly)

with the outcome data to compare one can focus then on the likely frequency of each in order to make the decision. that is the shoving ranges vs. bets or the calling ranges vs. shoves and then the scoop/scooped/split frequencies vs. those ranges.

also take into consideration the specific payout structure, the pay jumps are rather small. (has impact on the icm values of stacks as opposed to a payout structure with larger pay jumps which would mean a smaller 4th place prize)

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Old 08-13-2020, 03:50 PM   #3
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Re: NLO8 $16.50 - Final Table spot

2 alternatives overlooked and worthy of consideration


5. hero folds ... sb shoves and bb folds
126,117 $213.97
209,018 $241.54
165,681 $228.42
24,184 $153.93


6. hero folds.. sb shoves and bb calls

6a. sb scoops
126,117 $218.34
209,018 $244.18
189,865 $238.95
0 $136.38

6b. bb scoops
126,117 $210.85
209,018 $239.50
135,497 $214.70
54,368 $172.81

6c. sb/bb split 50/50
126,117 $213.64
209,018 $241.33
163,281 $227.35
26,584 $155.53
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