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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
is AAA2 a good or even playable hand?
Yes. (In general, I'd play it). It doesn't make a whole lot of difference if the deuce is suited to one of the aces or if the hand is a rainbow... AAA2 is still a very good starting hand. Here's a place you can go to look up the relative ranking of starting hands:
http://www.propokertools.com/simulations?g=o8
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in BB if the button limps, sb raises is this a good spot to 3bet to isolate aka limit holdem?
It kind of depends on who is seated on the button, and also who the small blind poster is (and how they'll both react to the three-bet). I wonder why the small blind poster has made it two bets. Sometimes your opponents will play some certain way against some players and a different way against other players.
The game is Omaha-8 but you still have to "play poker" (or get lucky) to be successful. There's no way around knowing how your specific opponents each plays in any poker game.
Here's a simulation comparison of AAA2-rainbow with A*** and ****. You can see rather clearly that AAA2 is probably the pre-flop leader.
Hand | Pot equity | Scoops | Wins Hi | Ties Hi | Wins Lo | Ties Lo |
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AsAhAd2c | 41.51% | 157,391 | 202,681 | 2,667 | 154,504 | 51,179 |
A*** | 29.66% | 104,490 | 165,789 | 6,715 | 76,365 | 51,179 |
**** | 28.83% | 108,459 | 224,815 | 4,048 | 15,802 | 0 |
But we can rather quickly come up with hands for opponents where that isn't so (where Hero is in last place). For example:
Hand | Pot equity | Scoops | Wins Hi | Ties Hi | Wins Lo | Ties Lo |
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AsAhAd2c | 25.18% | 92,495 | 124,476 | 13,037 | 0 | 213,478 |
Ac2h3c4h | 33.31% | 106,127 | 161,507 | 13,037 | 94,790 | 213,478 |
Td9d8c7c | 41.51% | 184,399 | 358,988 | 0 | 3,612 | 0 |
Buzz
Edit: I don't want anybody to come away from this post thinking Td9d8c7c is a good starting hand. It isn't. It's a poor starting hand. As a newb, we recommend you voluntarily play good starting hands, starting hands that have relatively high probabilities of ending up winners.
Yet relative to certain specific other starting hands, Td9d8c7c could have the best chance, the highest probability, of ending up the winner.
But of course we don't know what other specific starting hands have been dealt to our opponents. And we don't know, ahead of time (unless we're cheating) the specific cards that will appear on the flop, turn, or river.
The second simulation is intended to illustrate that the value of AAA2 (or any hand) is relative to the particular cards chosen for the hands that oppose it.
Only that and nothing more.
When interpreting simulations, be careful not to read into them more than is intended.
Buzz
Last edited by Buzz; 11-30-2010 at 05:12 PM.