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10-17-2023 , 06:31 PM
Hello, My name is James and I'm a fairly new poker player started about 3 years ago.

As most poker players I'am a losing player. I was down 540 CAD.

Recently, through 888 poker sign up bonus (20 dollar no deposit) I ran it up to 1200USD. I got insanely lucky.

Now that I have created my poker bankroll my goal is to tackle this plo8 table.

5cent10cent blinds (10 dollar buy-in max)

I have noticed that many players are limping OOP and calling 3x/4x/5x big blind raises preflop with one directional hands QdKd9c7s,A297 no suited ace, KK88

Hands are going multi-way to the flop every single hand (3-4 players)

These same players are also drawing to one way second nuts in big pots sometimes.

Also, no one never players deep they double and dip quick.

Im trying to create a strategy that will be able to win at this table. Here is what I have I hope anyone can help/give me some insight on my thoughts about how to win at this table.

I think that playing ultra tight at this table with the "let the money flow towards you" mindset is the correct idea on how to play it.

I think raising pot or nearly pot preflop is correct.

With proper hand selection we will be leaking less chips whenever we miss the flop.

We tried to limp almost every hand hoping to smash the flop and scoop but I feel like it just leaks chips and not the way to play.


Strategy For full ringed limp heavy plo8 games

1)only play A2ssXX or better

2)Play big pots in position

3)Small pots OOP unless nutz

3)Avoid marginal 1-way hands
A278 no suited EP
AQQ6 no ace suited EP
A4K7 no ace suited EP
A2Q10 no suited ace on btn facing multiple limpers
any WXYZ(highhand) in EP

4)Don't draw oneway ever

5)Look to keep players who draw one way hands by using small bets when nutted.

6) in 3bet pots do not play weak two way hands
A28Q suited aced weak low and 3 clubs (blocking nut flush). This avoids getting
in quarter situations when multiple people are calling with A2xx


anyways this is pretty much what i got right now hopefully someone can give some insight thanks!
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10-17-2023 , 08:33 PM
I think with that doctrine you will be a winning player in very weak games. That doesn't mean that it can't be improved or even that it's good.

No open limping is a great start. The rake is massive in a tiny game like that and thus you need to be relatively tight pre. You shouldn't be calling a lot of raises due to rake, something you didn't mention. You should be 3-betting a decent amount, just to play big HU pots with big hands.

I think "play big pots IP" and "small pots OOP unless nuts" is total nonsense. Your main 3-betting positions should be in the blinds - i.e. play big pots OOP, because with low SPR (stack to pot ratio) position doesn't matter that much. It's more true in plo8 than in other games, because you will flop strong enough to stack off in HU 3-bet pots rather often.

I don't know what exactly "Don't draw oneway ever" means. Don't draw to a high hand on a board that has a low? True, rarely should be done. Don't draw with QJT9 on K78r because the draw is "oneway"? Depending on the situation you often should be calling a bet.
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10-17-2023 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by amok
I think with that doctrine you will be a winning player in very weak games. That doesn't mean that it can't be improved or even that it's good.

No open limping is a great start. The rake is massive in a tiny game like that and thus you need to be relatively tight pre. You shouldn't be calling a lot of raises due to rake, something you didn't mention. You should be 3-betting a decent amount, just to play big HU pots with big hands.

I think "play big pots IP" and "small pots OOP unless nuts" is total nonsense. Your main 3-betting positions should be in the blinds - i.e. play big pots OOP, because with low SPR (stack to pot ratio) position doesn't matter that much. It's more true in plo8 than in other games, because you will flop strong enough to stack off in HU 3-bet pots rather often.

I don't know what exactly "Don't draw oneway ever" means. Don't draw to a high hand on a board that has a low? True, rarely should be done. Don't draw with QJT9 on K78r because the draw is "oneway"? Depending on the situation you often should be calling a bet.


I didnt realize low spr deep stack position matters less. I will keep that in mind.

For "one way" I mean.

its 4 way to the flop and your holding Ad2d98. flop is Qc5s3s. player bets pot and two callers (one is a tight player who traps alot with good hands but sometimes goes to showdown with only nut high or low) the other is loose who would stack off with second nutflush draw or any A2xx. I think its just best to fold because we are getting quarted and not drawing to the flush or nut straight.

With high only hands multi-way I think i call too much I feel like I chase draws.

im always looking for improvements and getting better I really want to be able to crush this game.
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10-18-2023 , 02:52 AM
Some hands I have played today one hand with 3betting from the blinds in mind.

Here are 5 hands what do you think about them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZuPeAXRBes


Hand 1 Ac3s5c6h - lennar limps i've seen him limp A2xx A3xx A4xx 24KQ suited to king type hands.
The more I think about this hand I feel like I should not have raised flop due to drawing to bottom straight and second nut low.

is this a fold pre?


Hand 2
limping is bad due to rake is this a fold?

hand 3
big blind raise to pot with A828 double suited. fold on flop but using twodimes calc it says my hand preflop has 0.59 vs 0.40 equity although there was one more player playing is this the correct play to pot it and hope for the best?

hand 4

after running the calc on two dimes calling the all-in was a bad idea due to my straight draw being counterfeit by possible flush

but, pre-flop is this hand worth a raise?


thanks for the help
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10-18-2023 , 08:17 AM
1) I'd limp behind. Note how it's very different from open limping. I don't think this small raise makes sense, just pot it when you raise. I don't think the tiny bet on the flop makes sense, just check it and see what happens. Your hand is not very strong but you end up putting a lot of money in.

2) every street wp

3) every street wp

4) I'd limp behind, not much sense raising small. Again you bet small on the flop when you should check. Your hand is pretty weak but maybe you need to get it in after the initial mistake of betting.
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