Hi everyone,
I have read everything I was able on PL08 for the last 3 month. I thought I started to understand the stats behind it. I had the chance to be able to play yesterday night in a poker room, in Limit Omaha (2-4 Kill 1-2 // Full ring 10 players).
I realized I struggled to odds with the limit game.

In most of hands, at least 6+ players were involved. Most of them being involve in every single hand and some of them raising significant number of time without really knowing why.
O8 is a drawing game and that's even more true in Limit.

First, what's your mental approach? Do you count in each hand the number of BB in the pot in order to take the good decisions? (I did it VERY approximatively even for low draw and flush draw )

Do you calculate the number of outs, then determine the % to decide whether you check, check-raise, limp fold....? I was personally more focused on villain's range.

I think it could make sense to have an "average" starting guide based on the case we are facing quite often, before starting to deep-dive in each decision based on the number of exact out / size of pots. The idea is to take good (not necessarily optimum as a start) decisions while progressing in order to start crushing live games.

For those who would like to play the game, what would you do in those circumstances :
Let's assume we have 5 loose players (4 loose + 1 decent player).
This is limit omaha with minimum bet 1BB preflop, flop, 2BB turn et river
Yes "it depends" (who opens before, exact position, # players, ....)
Yes, it's not 100% accurate
Yes, the intent is also to mix betting pattern to merge hand strength...


but let's start somewhere ...
Option for each response is check fold, check call, check raise, fold...

FLOP FLOP Turn Turn
Position: early Position Late position early Position Late position
Nut Straight draw (8 outs)
Nut Straight draw (4 outs)
Nut Straight draw wrap (11+ outs)
Nut Low draw (2 low on board / No emergency low)
Nut Low draw (2 low on board / decent emergency low)
Top 2 paires (board with low draw / flush draw)
Top 2 paires (board not connected)
Nut Straight draw + Nut low draw
Nut Straight draw (8 outs) - With Low Draw
Nut Straight draw (4 outs)- With Low Draw
Nut Straight draw wrap (11+ outs)- With Low Draw
Top 2 paires (board with low draw / flush draw) - With Low Draw
Top 2 paires (board not connected) - With Low Draw
Nut Straight draw + Nut low draw
Nut Straight draw (8 outs) - With Low
Nut Straight draw (4 outs) - With Low
Nut Straight draw wrap (11+ outs)- With Low
Top 2 paires (board with low draw / flush draw)- With Low
Top 2 paires (board not connected)- With Low

"With low" "with low draw" is there to introduce we may fight fot only half pot or quarter of pot