Player Descriptions:

Straddle UTG ($325) - Huge whale in the game. Raises pre-flop with a wide range, always raising his good hands and often raising complete garbage.

UTG + 1 (Covers all we are $950 effective) - Tight, even nitty player, but one who will call it all off with a one way hand. However, any raise pre-flop is absolutely AA, A2, or super strong A3 (i.e. A3KK, A3QQ, A3KQJds, etc).

Other players aren't really important - just know that they're really fishy and call absurdly light.

There's only one blind this hand. Straddle to $15 UTG is on, and UTG + 1 raises to $50. Folds to us and we call $50 in the CO. Fishy player in the blinds calls the $50. Straddle raises to $150 (this sizing is very probably not a strong hand, he's probably just bored). UTG calls, we call, player in the blinds calls.

Flop ~ $600

Ac6sTs

Blind checks, UTG shoves for $175, and tight player quickly calls so the pot is now $950 to us and we have $800 behind. Is this just a trivial shove? After the hand I intuitively thought shoving was a poor play, but looking at the amount in the pot and running an equity simulation against UTG + 1 giving him what I believe is a realistic range, and against UTG as a random hand, it seems unreasonable to think we wouldn't have the equity to make this +ev, and I don't think we have high enough visibility to just call.


Equity Sims:

1. Vs UTG+1 and UTG

ProPokerTools 5-Card Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: AT6

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
AA, A266, 3, 4, 5, ss:As), TT, 3, 4, 5, ss:As), 3, ss3, 4, 5, As))	42.72%	112,147	283,041	23,093	109,973	65,360
Ah2hJs8s4c	36.74%	85,707	158,677	22,421	192,146	72,147
x	20.54%	45,056	130,946	9,616	59,341	28,627

2. Vs UTG + 1

ProPokerTools 5-Card Omaha Hi/Lo Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: AT6

Hand	Pot equity	Scoops	Wins Hi	Ties Hi	Wins Lo	Ties Lo
AA, A266, 3, 4, 5, ss:As), TT, 3, 4, 5, ss:As), 3, ss3, 4, 5, As))	51.96%	150,653	353,032	29,408	127,719	65,346
Ah2hJs8s4c	48.04%	134,404	217,560	29,408	248,259	65,346

Edit: The unhappy faces are ": (" which symbolizes "All hands containing". For instance, All A2 hands containing a 6, 3, 4 5, or the Ace high flush draw. Sorry, I'm not sure how to change it.

I would flat and use position. Reasons? Kicker on the ace is bad — this seems silly but is not. Flush draw is relatively weak. No direct straight draws. Weak backdoor draws. Only 2nd nld with the worst low redraw. I would assume that one or more parts of this hand are drawing thin or dead, if not all of them, if I get significant action.

If blind jams after I flat, I call if I’m the only caller. If the tight player comes along, I probably fold.

If you want to gamble, just shove. A shove strikes me as a “zero play”, since you mostly fold out worse hands while having only better hands call.

Fwiw, while your starting hand ranges may be right in the equity calcs, I think they lean far too generous in villains calling range if you jam. You will see a lot more stuff that leaves you a dog, imho, especially with regards to the low draw, the flush draw, and the made high hand.

I somewhat agree with ecv, but this hand is effectively over preflop. Meaning we're "conditionally committed" - we hit a reasonable flop, we're in. And the other players think the same thing, in a vague way. "The pot is big and I don't have much left". i.e. low SPR.

It probably doesn't make a lot of difference if you call or shove, but just on principle I prefer calling. You put the rest in if you have to, not because you love to.

I don't like a call here. You could end up with three active stacks, get a weird turn card (dinks your low or a spade that precipitates action), and your opponent's hands are undefined. I like shoving here if you feel you can drop some players -- I don't mind eliminating worse hands like crumby lows that can back into something. But I'd prefer folding to calling if you don't like the situation.

I don't like giving advice on live hands that I haven't witnessed, but I think calling is just too weak. I doubt the decision will likely be easier on the turn.

jmo

Yeah I mean what we really want to do is call here and hope we can check down the rest of the way, barring some great cards (like the 3s on the turn). I don't think tight player is ever folding a hand like AT42x here, and this hand doesn't really work as a value shove either.